Did Dinn design the Beast?

Sunday, January 13, 2002 3:55 PM
Just to clear this up, people say he did but I swear that PKI designed it themselves.  Does anyone know?
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Sunday, January 13, 2002 4:05 PM
Yeah, it was an in-house project that took 3 years of planning, development, and construction to conserve as much of the forest around the ride. However, I swear that I read somewhere at the park, perhaps those little trivia signs, that Dinn helped in the construction because he was working for KI during the construction. I may be wrong, but I'm almost certain I read something about it somewhere...

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Sunday, January 13, 2002 4:05 PM
and Carlie Dinn worked for them back then
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Sunday, January 13, 2002 4:15 PM
It says on RCDB that Dinn did build the Beast.

http://www.rcdb.com/installationdetail67.htm

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Sunday, January 13, 2002 4:16 PM
Dinn Helped, but I dont think he was totaly responsible for it.
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Sunday, January 13, 2002 4:19 PM
Ok thats where the confusion comes from.
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Sunday, January 13, 2002 4:44 PM
I think Peck would be an excellent person to contribute to this post.  Now, lets all hope that he signs on and answers this question.

Personally, I think I remember reading that Dinn was the head of design for Kings Island Engineering for the years in which the Beast was built but I could be wrong.

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Sunday, January 13, 2002 7:32 PM
At the time when The Beast was designed and built, Curt Summers and Charlie Dinn were both working for Kings Island's design, construction, and engineering division. Of all the names attached to The Beast, the ones that we've heard the most are Curt Summers and Charlie Dinn, because Summers left KECO and became his own engineering firm, and Dinn left KECO and formed a construction firm.

In fact, some years ago I was chatting with Ralph Stricker who indicated that one Al Collins was as much or more responsible for the design of The Beast as anybody else. He also indicated that his Tornado was delayed a bit because he had to wait for Collins to retire from Kings Island before doing a set of plans for the Tornado. At one of the several enthusiast tours of Son of Beast, Collins' name came up again, possibly lending some evidence to the story.

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Monday, January 14, 2002 4:07 AM
Actually, i think shaggy would be the one to answer this one.... 
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Monday, January 14, 2002 5:37 AM
Dinn did not design the Beast.  Charles Dinn was the head of construction and helped with revisions or tweaks to the layout, but did not design it himself.  He was responsible for extensive track work and revisions once the ride was being built.  Most notably the reprofiling on the helix for the second season of it's operation.  Dinn is the one credited with perfecting the helix.

Actually it is fairly common knowledge that the Beast went through way to many revisions in the design and construction phase.  The whole project originally started as a desire to rebuild the Coney Island Shooting Star or Wildcat coasters.  Those plans got shelved but later appeared for other KECO properties.

Dinn and Summers, although heavily involved in the Beast's development were not the driving force.  As far as I know, Al Collins was the man behind the Beast as Mr Altoff already mentioned.  The Beast was their inspiration though, and all of Dinn/Summers subsequent coasters encorporate the things they learned from building it.

Both received accolades on the memorabilia boards put up in the park for it's 20th anniversary.  But it is noteworthy that they were the last two listed.  Even Ruth Voss was listed ahead of them in the "thank you's." 

Finally, did you know the Beast was not originally going to be called or themed to "The Beast?"  The original project called for the ride to be called "The Champion."

Shaggy

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Monday, January 14, 2002 8:40 AM
Thanks for clearing all that up Shaggy, I should've known to consult our resident PKI Expert.
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