Demon Drop To Knott's?

Monday, October 19, 2009 1:51 PM

I'm sure many of you have already seen it on Screamscape, but here's the link to the document (top of page 2) with the info.

What up with that?

Monday, October 19, 2009 2:07 PM

Why Knotts? Why not just scap the damn thing. If Knott's really need one of these, the could've just grabbed the one from Geuaga Lake.

Monday, October 19, 2009 2:21 PM

I suspect the one from Cedar Point is in better shape.

Monday, October 19, 2009 2:44 PM

They have a reputation for being a pain to maintain... except for this one. Are the guys in the shop really that much better than the other parks that have had these over the last several decades?

Monday, October 19, 2009 3:37 PM

Hmmm...they already have a drop-type ride. I think flyers or a star flyer would fit that spot better. not that I wouldn't ride it if they go through with it.

what's up Knott's? How about a nice dark ride next year instead??? :)

Monday, October 19, 2009 4:29 PM

Wait, is Knott's purchasing one of these? Or are they taking CP's? I thought CP was selling theirs, so why not move it to Knott's?

Monday, October 19, 2009 4:33 PM

aww shucks, why not send it to Michigan Adventure?

Monday, October 19, 2009 4:41 PM

Carrie M. said:
Wait, is Knott's purchasing one of these? Or are they taking CP's? I thought CP was selling theirs, so why not move it to Knott's?

It's so sad when you ask questions so stupid that no one even wants to respond... ;)

I got it now. :)

Monday, October 19, 2009 5:08 PM


Hopman said:
Why Knotts? Why not just scap the damn thing. If Knott's really need one of these, the could've just grabbed the one from Geuaga Lake.

1. Scrap is worth very little right now.

2. Mr. Hydes Nasty Fall was in bad shape. They tried selling it for even less than they were offering Demon Drop for. They decided it was more valuable as parts for Demon Drop. So, that's what happened to MHNF.

Monday, October 19, 2009 5:14 PM

Well, the ride at Geauga Lake had an accident, was ruthlessly torn out of Great America, shipped up to Rocky Point where it was patched back together, then sold at auction, taken to Geauga Lake, then an entirely new control system was installed that didn't work quite as well as the original, then when Geauga Lake scrapped the ride the drive motors morphed into a really nice transfer system for Raging Wolf Bobs.

Meanwhile, the Cedar Point ride has been operating since it was new, and probably has the original equipment control system on it. Furthermore, Cedar Point has been the only owner, so they have a complete history on it.

If I could choose between the Geauga Lake ride and the Cedar Point ride, I know which one I would pick.

Next question: If the Cedar Point ride goes to Knott's, how many of the locals will staunchly believe that it came from Magic Mountain?

--Dave Althoff, Jr

Monday, October 19, 2009 6:53 PM

Jason, and Dave, I stand corrected and kowtow to your knowledge of MHNF and Deamon Drop.

When you put it that way, Deamond Drop, despite being 27 years old, seemes like a bargin.

This begs a new question: What will replace DD @ CP?

I'm willing to bet the SoCal Locals (except for maybe SFMM ;) ), will be clueless.

Monday, October 19, 2009 7:27 PM

Did I miss where they said they are going to change its name once it is moved to Knott's to Deamond Drop?

Monday, October 19, 2009 7:36 PM

I wonder how much it cost to ship a ride across country.

Monday, October 19, 2009 8:10 PM

Should have taken a final ride on it, oh well did it the year before. And I thought the trend was to implode these instead of move them.

Monday, October 19, 2009 8:23 PM

I think this ride is much more frightning than power tower. The sounds the ride makes going up the lift is just scary.

Monday, October 19, 2009 8:24 PM

Management might have figured that there was still operation life left in the ride, but that time would be a lot less in Ohio weather vs. So Cal weather, thus the decision to move it to Knotts.

Monday, October 19, 2009 10:52 PM

Ohio weather vs. So Cal weather is meaningless and does not affect the longevity of the ride.

Monday, October 19, 2009 11:15 PM

How do you figure, Pete?

I'm jealous of you SoCal guys already...Cedar Point may be losing one of my favorite flat rides. :(

Monday, October 19, 2009 11:29 PM

I will miss it, but I am glad it's getting a new home. :) I just won't see it as often. I love those old 1st generation Intamin drops! They are rickety, insane, and make a lot of evil noises that still scare the hell out of me, especially right before they drop!


Monday, October 19, 2009 11:31 PM

The Ohio vs Cali weather plays almost a zero factor, but in today's regulatory environment, it is getting harder and harder to move major rides. However, in this case, California already has significant engineering paperwork, case studies, litigation, and preferred maintenence records on a Generation One Freefall. Cedar Points and SFMM were built to the same specs, and Cedar Point's has been maintained.

The Geauga Lake model did have new cars manufactured when the ride was in Ohio. That little know fact did not make a better ride. One selling point of the older free-falls is that less adventurous riders will brave the free-fall in leiu of the mambo-jambo sized tower drops.

If this happens, its a good move on paper, since you only need about 3 trailers to move the ride, Intamin is probably dismantling it when they arrive to start on Shoot the Rapids, and the same crane rental can be used if the timing is there.

Intamin is a busy company now, and small projects like this keep the ball rolling for project managers, and well, if that ride is sitting in the parking lot with a 'for sale' sign on it, Intamin can't sell parts.

Whats the worse that happens? Once DCA removes the Mali-Boomer in 2011, Knott's has the free-fall market to themselves, minus Tower of Terror, which is in its own division.


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