Deja Vu Valleys Again @ SFMM 3/17

Sunday, March 17, 2002 2:49 PM
Had a great day at SFMM today 3-17-02. Not to busy, X wait was only about 1 1/2 hours as the crew is crankin out train after train. No more 6 minutes loading time, they have it down to about 2 min now.
Went on Deja Vu in The Morning, intense, crazy as ever.
Later in the day I went back to Deja Vu just to see it valleyed at the copra roll again. Noone was on the ride. From what I understand is that you should not run Deja Vu if its below a certain temperatur. Today was really cold, low 50s for sure. Ninja was closed for the same reason.
Anyhow, just another Deja Vu valleying at an otherwise incredible Magic Mountain Day. Batman, Riddler, Goliath, Viper, all walk ons or a train or two wait. You cant beat a great day like this at my fave park!
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Sunday, March 17, 2002 2:51 PM
Does anyone have any pics or news articles about this?
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Sunday, March 17, 2002 2:52 PM
They need to fix that, or people will become to afraid to ride it.

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Sunday, March 17, 2002 2:56 PM

They really need to do something. A simple solution would be to have tire drives coming in and out of the cobra rolls. Hopefully they won't leave it as is.

-Jeff

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Sunday, March 17, 2002 3:03 PM

Well if some people get scared then its better for the rest of the guests, less time to wait!

think positive people!

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1. S:RoS 2. Yankee Cannonball 3. Riverside Cyclone 4. Canobie
Corkscrew 5. Thunderbolt 6. Galaxy 7. Mind Eraser 8. Dragon coaster 9. poison ivy's tangl

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Sunday, March 17, 2002 3:52 PM
Maybe it's about time for SFMM to just take deja-vu out and replace it with a regular Invertigo.As far as I can tell two face @ SFA has never vallied in the cobra roll, it's gotten stuck on the lift a couple of times but never in the cobra roll.
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Sunday, March 17, 2002 4:01 PM
Just wati until SFoG and SFGAm are in weekday operation. There will be 3 times as many valley reports. I wouldn't mind if people do become afraid to ride it. Less of a wait for me! (and more rides on it, more of a chance of being on it when it valleys)

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Sunday, March 17, 2002 4:08 PM

I for one hope Deja Vu doesn't get replaced by an Invertigo. Deja Vu is so much of a better ride, not one boomerang/invertigo could even begin to come close. The feeling that you get on those 195 ft. Vertical Spikes makes this ride a classic. This is one ride that should be smiled upon when it is mass-cloned. For those that haven't ridden it, don't be so quick to judge it, because you're in for a helluva surprise. I too said it wouldn't be anything special. Boy was I wrong...

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Sunday, March 17, 2002 4:14 PM

Agree, I was able to ride Deja Vu this morning, it is just an AMAZING ride, everyone in my group went on it the first time. They were blown away. It is intense and beautiful, one of the best Coaster experiences ever. I just think this time it was SFMM fault, as they should not have the ride operating in temperatures below 60 degrees, it was nice in the morning, but towards the afternoon, clouds came in and it got really, really cold( well, for L.A standards) , definatlely low 50s.

The GP loves this ride, I sure hope they would never think of taking this ride out. SFMM management is pretty smart, they know what they have and I am sure they will look how the ride operates thruout the summer and see if they need to modify it come fall.... Just my 2 cents....

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Sunday, March 17, 2002 4:41 PM
I kinda hope not to see DejaVu valley at SGAM

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Sunday, March 17, 2002 4:46 PM
Rubber Ducky Said:

"They need to fix that, or people will become to afraid to ride it.

The average coaster rider (non-enthusiast) would never hear about Deja Vu getting stuck, even if it made it on the nightly news. And we enthusiasts would LOVE to tell the story of "The time I got valleyed on DV and had to walk down the stairs."

Also, the thought of replacing DV with an Invertogo is so rediculous it makes my head spin. Let's see... take the cost to purchase and build Deja Vu (a record breaking ride), add the cost of taking that same ride down, add the cost to purchase and build an Invertigo (a rather "run of the mill" ride) and you get the world's financial plan ever. All because it valleyed twice? Please!

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Sunday, March 17, 2002 5:37 PM
Actually, I think that tire driver idea is a good one! You should contact Vekoma about that one... I am sure it wouldn't be too expensive to implement, and would solve these problems.
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Sunday, March 17, 2002 5:46 PM

Is this really worthy of a forum topic everytime it happens? Everybody says the same thing each time.

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Sunday, March 17, 2002 11:40 PM

bigboy said:

Is this really worthy of a forum topic everytime it happens? Everybody says the same thing each time.



Well, the same can be said about a lot of topics in the forums. How many countless threads have been started about "what are the crowds like at 'park x' on 'x-weekend'" or "another TR:TR article". It's just something else to read I guess. It drew both your attention AND mine didn't it? :)

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God please let SFKK get something in 2002. ANYTHING!!

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Monday, March 18, 2002 7:59 AM
I would imagine that the ride WAS closed down when the temperature dipped too low, and was running a test to see if it could be re-opened (hence, no one on board in the middle of the day on a low capacity ride). If the problem is simply temperature related, then they need to be more precise on what temperature it IS throughout the day, and what temperature they feel comfortable Running the ride at.

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Monday, March 18, 2002 2:29 PM
Soggy, I know that most of the GP doesn't visit a park more than twice a year, so they wouldn't know about the how often Deja Vu has vallied. But those whop do get stuck on the ride will tell their freinds and family about how dangerous of a ride it is, and it will spread. The public will eventually precive the coaster as a dangerous coaster whereas a enthusiasts would almost love to get stuck on it. just so they had a story to tell. And they know it is safe, but the GP doesn't. I do agree, I just believe that this if this continues to happen month after motnh, than the ride will be precived as unsafe by the GP.
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Monday, March 18, 2002 2:52 PM

I'm not so sure people that have been vallied on a coaster really think the ride is dangerous. Boomerangs, arrow shuttles, etc. have vallied numerous times and I don't think there is a significant decrease in ridership because the rides are perceived as dangerous.

While DV has vallied numerous times, it is unfortunate, but is basically a non event. It just sucks to be at the park with another ride down.

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Monday, March 18, 2002 4:20 PM
I know plenty of people who would be scared half to death if they were on a coaster that vallied. But they are just wimps also.
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Monday, March 18, 2002 6:49 PM
Hogwash! There is no way that word of mouth starting from 30 people could ever affect the ridership of ANY ride to the point that most of the coaster riding public would be afraid to ride it.

Besides, what actually happened to the people who were stuck? Did anyone get killed? No. Did anyone get hurt? No. The only thing that happened is they had to walk down some stairs. I understand that something like that could be preceived as nerve-racking for those who had to do it. But how does stalling actually make the ride dangerous?

Besides, almost everywhere you go, if you listen to GPer's in line, you always hear this conversation "Remember... a long time ago... when [insert ride name here] derailed and everyone on the train died?" "Yeah, that's really scary!" Chances are, they have all the facts wrong or it actually never happened, and lines are just as long as ever for that ride.

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Monday, March 18, 2002 6:52 PM
Soggy: Tell that to Bally's who had to remove "THE EDGE" from SFGAm after only 3 riders got hurt. I know people from the Chi area who STILL wont ride a 1st gen (but strangely will ride Giant Drop).
jeremy
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