Tuesday, October 23, 2001 11:19 AM
People keep mentioning that Deja Vu or V2 should get a switch track so that the capacity can be increased. I was curious is there are any coasters with switch tracks that are taken at full speed. Mr. Freeze and X-Flight/Batwing have switch tracks, but the train goes over that part of the track very slowly. The reason I wonder is because, if you did put it in, wouldn't the train barreling over the small gaps in the track at 70+ MPH ruin the wheels rather quickly?
The legend lives!
Tuesday, October 23, 2001 11:30 AM
Ask Rideman. He's the expert on technical things like this.
"I'm eccentric, I can do whatever I want"- Rat Race
Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:23 PM
Space Mountain at The Magic Kingdom has switch track that is taken at a good clip.
"ok everyone go ahead and pull down on your shoulder restraint so you feel nice and stuck!"
Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:29 PM
IN theory the 3 best ways I can see increasing the capacity of Deja Vu (or any other shuttle coaster) are:
1) Dual/Triple tracks (for Deja Vu they could really have 2 next to each other and mirror image them.)
2) Reduce the number of safety devices that a required to be on in order to ride. (Deja Vu has 2 belts and an OTSR)
3) Have a faster crew. (On Deja Vu at SFGAm they could significantly decrease the wait time by having the ride ops bring the harness down when they check the seatbelts around the waist rather than checking all the waist seatbelts then having everyone pull down their own OTSR and then checking again.)
Yes, I want my Deja Vu and eat it too!
Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:35 PM
Have a faster crew?
What you described is the saftey procedures used to check restraints on Deja Vu, not really anything about them going slow. Ride Ops aren't allowed to make up how they decide to check restraints, there is a set way. For that, the policy at SFGAm is to check the seatbelts first and then go and check the harnesses.
BATWING FAN SFA
Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:33 PM
Definetely a faster crew.
Tuesday, October 23, 2001 3:38 PM
I realize that Deja Vu is slow boarding anyways, but the crew of Deja Vu at SFMM is super slow and has a lack on enthusiasm. All the other crews were many times better. Actually, the Viper crew was out of this world the last time I went. They dispatched trains at unbelievable rates (before the train in front if it made it to the second loop usually.
Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:12 PM
I think a lot of people don't take into consideration all the factors of having slow loading time on some shuttle coasters. I mean obviously there is only one train so that is going to make it slow from the start. Then if u add in the factor of seatbelts on some trains that just slows everything down even more. I know at Chiller this year ever since Robin came back the loading time has taken forever, but it has nothing to do with the crew. A lot of people don't fit, a lot of people need help with seatbelts, a lot of people sit on their seatbelts etc. So I can definately sympathize with any crew member who has ever worked on a shuttle coaster. We do the best we can do.
Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:57 PM
it might be too expensive to do on V2. think about it. they would need LIMs on both of the switch tracks. Then you have the problem of calibrating each one right, making sure they can get power to each one. If my knowledge of how switch tracks work is correct, then I don't think that it could work on V2. Deja vu would probably work though.
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Wednesday, October 24, 2001 6:09 AM
Actually the Mr. Freeze coasters have LIM's on each of the tracks and then there are the stationary ones beyond the switch track. So it could work, but I agree with Apollo Andy that I would be skeptical about the switch track when the coaster is running over the gap (you can see it on Mr. Freeze) at 70 mph on the Impulses.
Wednesday, October 24, 2001 7:22 AM
I understand it may be fun to speculate on things like v2 and DV getting switch tracks, but the reality is that it is not going to happen.
Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:27 AM
Acutally on Mr. Freeze there are only like two sets of LIM's and they only cover the fins of the first car and part of the second. My guess is that these have enough "pull" to get the train to the rest of the LIM's.
Speed: The Ride is the same....The LIM's only go half the length of the station covering 3 out of the 6 cars.