Yeah they lift you up rather slowly. About the same speed as the regular Boomerangs, but of course you are vertical. Its really kinda scary the first time resting totally on the restraint. Of course, the closer to the front, the less you're vertical. The front car barely comes out of the pullout curve at the bottom of the spike.
It's probably the most scary experience you can have on a coaster. More to the point, the first time I rode one of these, my seat harness opened one notch, which - when you have your full weight on it - probably is the most scary experience you can have on a coaster.
Having said that, when I rode Stunt Fall in WBMW Madrid in September, though I had been dreading it, I was quite surprised to find that the fear had gone, and since the harness was actually doing its job, I really enjoyed it.
Just riding an invertigo is somewhat of a lesson in fear the first time around & while the lift may not be as tall or as steep (137 ft tall at a 55 degree angle) you've still got a lot of your upper body weight being pressed against that restraint.
While the lift on an invertigo is probably faster than that of a standard boomerang it still feels like an eternity just to get to the top & then you're just hanging there for a few seconds hoping the thing hasn't gotten stuck like what happened on Two face last year.
The added "safety" belts do absolutely nothing to hold you. If the harness were released (unlikely) and the belt holding the harness broke (nearly impossible) the useless PTC like sliding lap belt would do absolutely NOTHING to hold you in. It is there to give guests the illusion of added safety when in reality it would slide open and you would just fall out. VERY stupid idea and slows down loading times.
eightdotthree, the seatbelts DON'T hold you off the harness. They are the same (or similar) seatbelts used on PTC trains. They buckle on one side and then have the rediculously easy to slide buckle to tighten it. So as soon as you are lifted up the thing loosens, you slide forward, and the excess belts slaps your legs during the ride. How useless....:( grrrrrr..
The b&m flyers do seem really secure, I was going to ride superman @ gadv but the line was 4+ hours long. Vekoma's flyer trains are shady to me, that plastic harness is all you have and the ride shakes so much, i feel like I am going to fall out. Too bad cause I would enjoy the ride if not for that feeling. I get the same feeling on the intamin impulses.
Hmm...the belts on SFMM's Deja Vu held on pretty tight. The only thing is, they only really hold onto your lap, so your body weight is still pressing pretty hard against the restraint, and they sit so low on your lap that they don't feel like they'd do much to hold you in.
But yes, I'm sure that between the restraint itself and the belt holding it shut, it ain't going anywhere.
I can't imagine having it loosen one click though, that'd scare the hell out of me.
As far as lift speed goes, I've only ridden one Boomerang (at Knott's) and no Invertigos, and only the Deja Vu at SFMM, so I can't speak for all of them. However, comparing those two, Deja Vu's lift goes MUCH faster than Boomerang's...it felt like it was going to take forever and a day to get to the top of Boomerang's lift hill.
Jason Wilson said: eightdotthree, the seatbelts DON'T hold you off the harness...So as soon as you are lifted up the thing loosens, you slide forward, and the excess belts slaps your legs during the ride. How useless....
That's never happened to me on Deja Vu. The additional seatbelt always stays tight during the entire ride. For the record, I'm speaking of SFGAm's Deja Vu.
Tom Servo, Knott's is the slowest boomerang lift I've ever seen! The Deja Vu's lifts are really quick (a little faster than invertigo speeds, and much cooler sounding) but they are more scary than anything. Am I the only one that is more scared by the anticipation of the jolt on the pullout (in the backseat) than the lift?
Okay I am now questioning if I will EVER ride one of these things! lol ;) Man now I really can't wait to ride one of these things this summer! Nothing like a total fear for your life to make a great ride! YAY!
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If you don't ride one of these, you really are missing out. I only got to ride DV at SFGAm once, simply because I didn't want to wait 3-4 hours to do it again. But I wouldn't wait 3-4 hours for anything. Anyways, yeah, the lift is pretty scary, but if you've been on anything else that goes vertical (i.e. Intamin Impulse, Oblivion) it's a feeling that you'll be used to. As for the jolting - I was expecting the worse, and braced for a big jolt on the second lift, but was surprised at how smooth the transition to the lift was. I don't know how the ride will age, but it seems like Vekoma is really doing something about their "hang and bang" reputation, and their first "world class" ride IMO.
It only takes about 8 seconds for Deja Vu to go up the first tower, although it feels like longer when on the ride. And usually the one at SFGAm makes a pretty smooth catch, but there are some days when it catches hard and really jerks the train.
EDIT: No matter what I do, I always end up noticing a spelling error after I post. *** Edited 2/25/2004 8:19:34 AM UTC by CoasterDude316***