Decision time looms on 49ers stadium proposal

Posted Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:41 AM | Contributed by Jason Hammond

Does Santa Clara's City Council agree to take the project forward, potentially to a citizen ballot in late 2008? Or does the city close the book on the project, leaving the 49ers to grapple with San Francisco? The month of December should provide an answer, and there appears to be a core of support on the council to move on to the next phase — when the city would try to negotiate a deal with the 49ers and send it to voters. Cedar Fair's position on using the parking lot at California's Great America has not changed.

Read more from The San Mateo County Times.

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:45 AM
Hmmm....why not build the stadium where the golf course is across the street next to the convention center? Should be plenty of room for a stadium and parking. For some reason, I thought the golf course was owned by the city.
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Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:18 PM
I think this gets more attention because the 49ers stink so bad. People resort to talking about the new stadium instead of their sorry team.
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Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:05 PM
Well new stadiums make sports teams better, duh. Look at the Clo... er... Browns. ;)
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Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:20 PM
Believe me, if they were the team they were in the 80's, Santa Clara wouldn't stand a chance against San Francisco.
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Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:35 PM
Send in Barry Bonds as the negotiator
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Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:29 AM
All's I know is about 3 years ago, Kennywood did a really neat-o feasibilty study that showed them bringing more to the 'economic table' than the Steelers or Pirates, in terms of local-county dollars, with full time employees, vendor dollars spent, etc.

I am certain Cedar Fair did their homework. Its really a treat for the visitors to have so many events to do in one spot. Think...49ers games let out, thousands go to CGA before and after the game. Not many cities can co-market/package together.

Denver can, Anaheim, Tampa, and maybe DC. Quite a days outing.

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Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:27 AM
Now if only they can get the darn park to be profitable.
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Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:13 AM
Exactly. They don't have year round expenses like Six Flags with the animals, nor a 'limited market' like Gilroy Gardens. Its a simple theme park.
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Friday, November 30, 2007 8:50 AM
You also have to see a few items from the point of view of sports owners. They know they have an advantage, right now there is a lot of talk of many team moving cities... why becuase the city is not supporting them.

Current teams looking to move are...
The Florida Marlins
The New Orlenes Saints
The Seattle Supersonics

why are they looking to move? because the venues they play in are older then dirt, or they share them with other teams. (IE the Marlins and Dolphins, or the Jets and Giants), but sadly the public wants to keep the team, but doesn't want to pay extra taxes to fund a new facility to keep them in the city, reality says you can not keep a team with out of date facilities, but some people have tried...

Cleveland refused to upgrade The Browns facilities because of the cost, The browns moved to Baltimore (As the Ravens) with a new funded place to play, won a super bowl BTW. Baltimore wisened up really quick to get an NFL team back into the city, because they lost A TON of money, because 3 years before the Browns moved to Baltimore, The Baltimore Colts moved to Indianapolis for the same reason the browns move to Baltimore.

Baltimore refused to give the colts a new place to play because of costs to the tax-payers, but once they saw how much they lost in city revenue without an NFL team, they were quick to buy up the next one that came up for grabs, and not make that mistake twice.

Similar situations would be..
Houston Texans/Tennessee Titans
Charleote Hornets/New Orlenes Jazz
Utah Jazz/New Orlenes Hornets
The soon to be Seattle Supersonics into the Oklahoma City Supersonics
New York Dodgers/LA Dodgers

All this sports talk, what does it have to do with parks and coasters?

It means a smart city is not going to lose an NFL franchise (with 4 super bowl trophies) for a theme park. No matter how bad the team is, a park is not worth the revenue that 8 NFL games give you over a year. An NFL team give year round revenue from mechendise, and during game weeks more boost in 1 weekend from taxes from food, hotels, parking, and game tickets, to the city is close to 100 million. A theme park or golf course can not even come close to that.

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Friday, November 30, 2007 9:00 AM
Maybe Cf should just buy the Stadium. I'm sure they could make it a more Traditional Family stadium. They wouldn't even need to increase the pop and beer pricess, though they probably would. If it doesn't work out, they could put in a CornHole Arena!
;)
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Saturday, December 1, 2007 1:32 AM
^^ Anonymous poster, I'm not sure if you mis-typed something, or you just have your facts screwed up. Could you give a source for your claim that in one weekend, an NFL city collects 100 million in revenue?

If it's true that a city makes 800 million each NFL season, there's absolutely no reason to float bonds, or get state or federal funds to build stadiums. Stadiums would pay for themselves before the season ends. Even 100 million per season is a pretty high return.

Besides, even if the 49ers build in Santa Clara, they are still technically "moving" out of San Francisco, because Frisco gets none of the revenue from tickets, merchandising, etc. For 100 million a week, don't you think SF would do everything it could to keep the team? Santa Clara wouldn't even be an option.

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Saturday, December 1, 2007 9:10 PM
According to this site, a football team with a new stadium pumps 100-200 million a year into the local economy. Bear in mind this is a pro-football site so their figures are, if anything, slanted in favor of football.

On the other hand, the Atlanta Business Chronicle claims a 250 million annual impact just for Wild Adventures.

However since amusement parks don't have luxury boxes... ;)

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Wednesday, December 5, 2007 12:31 PM
Its funny as the owner of the 49ers lives about 2 and a half hours east of the CF headquarters haha
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