Decapitation at SFoG

Is a Six Flags counter sue a possibility though?

"The existing signage, the Labor Department found, does meat state and national standards established by the American Society for Testing and Materials."

...so there really isn't anything that can come of it if it meets the standards. The article says the department of labor "recommends" they add extra signage, but don't have to. I had to also laugh at the articles comment about signs that should read EXTREME DANGER to increase awareness (as if DANGER: RESTRICTED AREA--DO NOT ENTER isn't enough)

"But they recommended that given the significant hazard to "unauthorized individuals" entering the area of the ride, that additional fencing that proves a "more effective barrier to their access" should be erected around the ride."

..Alright, so the next person who decides to scale the fence would have to hop 3 instead of 2. Most people follow the "If there's a will..there's a way" approach so if someone was crazy enough to try it again and make it through, then what? I hope it wouldn't happen again, but you just never know with these things.

Oh, oh, Audioslaved, I think I just peed a little in my pants. LMAO BwahahahahahahahaHAHAHAHA! You're not right, and I love it. And they could send someone in a Joker costume with Batman and just have the Joker laugh and laugh.

Okay, that's a little over the top. I'm all riled up now cuz that was great.

Actually, the MySpace page has a LITTLE to do with this. If he loves the marijuana, it'll be interesting to see, since he left the park at one point to go "eat" if he wasn't under the influence of illegal substances. Hrrmmmm....

You know something that might work for Six Flags? If they just caged the area off as much as possible, with only a fence-type door padlocked for only employees to open up. I don't know how you'd do this because the actual coaster has to go through the area, but I wonder if they could do something like that.

I agree that we as teenagers have ALL done stupid stuff and that some are just luckier than others as to consequences. I can think of about 50 examples AT LEAST of absolutely ridiculous stuff that I did in college at 17 that I am absolutely lucky to have survived. And I DO feel bad for the parents and the witnesses. Still, I also agree that the parents, if they have indeed contacted a lawyer, should be going through the grieving process and not looking to profit. However, they MAY have needed to contact a lawyer to protect their rights...you know, not signing something that they shouldn't have signed, etc.

That MySpace allowed me to put a face to the incident. It sucks even worse now that I can see that he was just a normal teenage kid who's mischief ended his life. Seeing the sadness from his many friends is very heartbreaking.

Where is the respect for the dead here? Even I publicly laughed at a distasteful, but very funny, joke. It is so sad to me that a teenager had died, no matter the circumstances.

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F2006 said:

..Alright, so the next person who decides to scale the fence would have to hop 3 instead of 2. Most people follow the "If there's a will..there's a way" approach so if someone was crazy enough to try it again and make it through, then what? I hope it wouldn't happen again, but you just never know with these things.

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That's what I was getting at before - three's going to have to be some sort of reaction regardless of how redundant it may seem. Just looking at the business aspect and the nature of the beast. It sucks that someone died, but rather than focus on how or why or to judge someone, it's interesting to observe how Six Flags has to respond to this.

Anything weird or redundant in the saftey aspect of atheme park is usually the result of either an incident or an over zealous insurance company.

Those those weird oversized grab handles that stick out on the horsecollars of Vekoma/Arrow trains at Six Flags parks for example. It's a direct result of the Lightnin' Loops fatality at SFGAdv in the late 80s. Now no one could ever sit on top of a closed horsecollar restraint, which was found to be one of the reasons for the accident. *** Edited 7/2/2008 7:38:15 AM UTC by Cropsey***

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bunky666 said:
Actually, the MySpace page has a LITTLE to do with this. If he loves the marijuana, it'll be interesting to see, since he left the park at one point to go "eat" if he wasn't under the influence of illegal substances. Hrrmmmm....

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This made me laugh. :)

Because all stoners love to get loaded, and then put out vast amounts of effort climbing fences instead of walking around to the front gate.

I'm still missing what his myspace has to do with this situation though. This whole thing is a bummer, and my thoughts go out to everyone who was effected by his poor choice. Was he a bad guy? Who knows, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and say no. Did he make a ultra poor choice to jump the fence? Absolutely.

Your millage may vary of course.

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Sean Menefee said:
I'm still missing what his myspace has to do with this situation though.

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There's nothing to gleam from it. You can look at 100 Myspace pages created by male, African-American youth and 90 will probably look similar. I mean say what you want about the kid but

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FredofLasVegas said:
His MySpace page says a lot about him, and "Christian" is not anywhere close to the first impressions one would have on this guy.

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is something that should be denounced in every way, especially from someone who has this as their single post here. As if you can make judgments about someone's faith based on what is likely a whole lot of posturing on Myspace, of all places.

Of course his faith is totally relevant, it is well proven that non-Christians are much more likely to jump in front of roller coasters than Christians.

We can't do a Moat or Pirrahans, or Raptors or even bardwire.

People would sue if they got cut,drown,eaten,or bitten.

I know pirates has motion sensors but that ride is indoors. If Batman had sensors it would shut the ride down all the time because of animals and stuff.

I was just thinking that a lawsuit in this case is a real problem for all parks.If this case gets paid off there will be copycats among suicidal types.All parks are going to have to heighten fences or add barbed wire to the top.
Signage will not stop suicidal people.
Will the signs have to be in all languages from all countries that may have a guest in the park.Motion sensors and camera's may inform ride ops before a train is dispatched .

The park did all that could reasonably be expected. In the future will park also have to try to stop the unreasonable ?

I saw a quote from the lawyer who said he is looking into this for the family because someone died because of this ride before.With thinking like that we would have no automobiles (people have died in them)so manufacturing them show callous disregard for your customers lives.(i hope i did not just give a lawyer an idea )

First of all, what do you can 100 lawyers at the bottom of Lake Erie? A good start!

Are we going to see lawyers sueing parks becuase a rider got whiplash? Claims that TTD is "too fast?" or a line that was "too long?" Even a coaster that one person said "sucks?" I swear that this country is turning into a bunch of crybabies and pussies!

Unless the gaurds are armed AK-47's or bazookas, I think that most kids will not see a "park cop" as much of a threat. Unless it's actuall city cops (ala CP), most kids won't give a hoot.

This may spell the end of "REAL" coasters as we know them.

^Bravo!

I'm all for AK-47's. They're a tad messy, but will get the job done. I'll take a K98 sniper rifle any day of the week.

In the moat, can we PLEASE HAVE FRINKIN' SHARKS WITH FRICKIN' LASERS ON THERI HEADS? *** Edited 7/2/2008 1:42:36 PM UTC by FLYINGSCOOTER***

Heck, let's make it automated Howitzers...

Not to be a turkey,

Jesus came to save sinners. It's only too late if you

are dead. No matter what you have done, come to

him and he will forgive you. [You just have to pass

this message on to others.]

I believe the kid was saved. God kept him from

entering adulthood and all the evils that go along

with it. Yes, we Catholics believe in purgatory. You

get perfected/ learned/ make up for your falts here

before entering Heaven. The relief is in knowing you

won't go to hell.

Well, we don't get enough of ^ that on Coasterbuzz!

^^ Um...yeah...we're gonna need you to go ahead and evangelize elsewhere. Yeah...if you can do that, that would be great.

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Crashmando said:
...or even bardwire.

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It's a wire that tells epic stories. ;)

(sorry, I found that typo pretty humorous)

^^^^sigh. I don't think I've ever seen an evangelical Catholic before.

For what it's worth, I happen to believe in a God who loves His children, not condemns them.

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Kick The Sky said:
^^ Um...yeah...we're gonna need you to go ahead and evangelize elsewhere. Yeah...if you can do that, that would be great.

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Office Space...hilarious!

Truly sad that someone died needlessly. Also truly sad that two fences and signage is deemed "not enough" *** Edited 7/2/2008 3:23:08 PM UTC by Bster***

I was starting to think the bush administration didn't have your minds corrupted.