1. Trains that tear apart the ride
2. Material used to build the ride
3. It's not an 'exact' clone
4. Minimal amount of maintenance.
5. Re-profiling that's been done
6. Trim brakes that have been added.
7. A really, really nasty earthquake that hit in '94 and the ride has never quite been the same since.
IMO, the coaster actually used to be 'pretty good' from '91 - '93. Then the earthquake hit and really tore the thing apart. The first drop, and several other parts of the ride were re-profiled, trim brakes were added, and those B&M trains never really seemed to work quite right on it.
This is all information I've gathered while talking to some of the guys in maintenance during some Discovery Channel shoots, and stuff I've learned over the years talking to people involved with the consturction of the ride, and I'm sure there's other people who can give you more details, but I'm pretty much most, if not all of those things on the list, have something to do with the ride's demise.
My "guess" is that SFMM just simply didn't do that good of a job with the repair work after the quake.
And it could totally be a coincidence, but it really seems like that ride was never quite the same after the quake hit.
Not to mention the fact that it's Summer's - Dinn woodie. They all are high on the "roughest woodie lists" no?
Both are horrible roller coasters, don't get me wrong. Cyclone is just the most painful, unpleasant roller coaster. How it became a star is beyond me.
Well, *my* opinion, FWIW, is that CI Cyclone gets some of the best care available anywhere and that THAT is part of what makes it a timeless masterpiece....
After that (of the ones I've ridden):
SFoG (very much a moody ride, very hit or miss)
Riverside is a Cyclone in name ONLY, therefore I'm not ranking it here...
That being said Coney Cyclone is NOT for wimps. You don't ride Coney Cyclone...it rides you! But what a wonderful, agressive, classic ride it is ;)
Must've hit SFOG's on a 'miss' day. :)
I know where you are coming from with this statement Gonch. I've had some great experiences and downright boring experiences on this ride over the 5-6 times I've visited. There was a time when I considered this one of the best woodies only to be hit with mega-anticipointment on return visits. However, I had another great experience in Oct of 2003... I just am not sure what to think of this clone!?
Psyclone over Cyclone...? What an unusual and original take...
--Robb "I guess Aska would be tied as my favorite Cyclone clone since it's pretty much a clone of Viper" Alvey
I had some terrific rides on Viper at SFGAm in 2002, but when I rode it in Sept 2004 it was pretty tame! Goergia Cyclone was running great in March 2004.
It annoys me about woodies and how they don't always run as good. One that has never let me down over the years is the Grand National at Blackpool Pleasure Beach. The front and back seat are just aritime mania, and the Phoenix is pretty consistent too.
To me, cyclone is great, because it is rough, close to the point of being "too" rough, without ever going over the line. Are the clones all exact duplicates of layouts, banking and all??
Brian, who knows MY Cyclone is not near as an enjoyable OR consistent ride for the amateur, but this a coaster board, right?
The rough, agressive ride GC gave is what I'd imagine Coney's Cyclone gives.
Interesting. I think the Coney Cyclone gives an agressive, but not necessarily rough, ride. I thought Ga. Cyclone gave a rough, though not necessarily agressive, one.
Hence, Coney's being in the top part of my personal woodie list and SFOG's being in the bottom part.
I rode this for the first time in 1996 or 1997 I believe (around there anyway)... It was a warm mid-summer night ride (perfect conditions) and I just did not understand why the enthusiast community liked the ride so much. I had the back car and tried the front and it did nothing for me. I spent a couple of years thinking that everybody must have a PN bias, or a soft spot in their heart due to the coaster moving across country...
Went back in 2001 or 2002 under the same circumstances and fell in love with Phoenix. Airtime galore and perfectly mean and well paced. It is one of the best.
I guess it goes to show that any wooden coaster can have an off day or year. Of the many wooden coasters I've been on (multiple times and years), only Ghostrider and Raven have never delivered a bad/boring ride for me. However, I'm sure some of you have had bad experiences on these rides similar to my Phoenix experience. It is just the nature of wood I guess...
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