Monday, July 28, 2003 2:50 PM
My sister works at CP and she said she heard something about them having plans to eventually move the parking lot off the peninsula so the park can have more room to grow and people could walk to the park our ride trams and buses over. I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this. Thanks.
Monday, July 28, 2003 2:56 PM
Yep, I know someone who works at cp, he told me the same thing the other day, except, he made it sound like they were not going to move the whole parking lot, but make parking decks so they could use most of the parking lot for rides. That's what he made it sound like to me.
Monday, July 28, 2003 3:28 PM
... which are both ideas presented in a previous news thread about the expansion of the Radisson. I'd say your sister and friend know someone who browses these boards. While it sounds viable, it would probably be a while before they'd make an investment that big.
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Monday, July 28, 2003 3:43 PM
That rumour has been going around for years now. Cedar Point owns a bunch of land off of route 6, or 250 in Sandusky, and that they plan to install a monorail to shuttle people to the park like Disney.
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Monday, July 28, 2003 5:07 PM
I think this will end up happening, not anytime soon, but not too far along from now. Cedar Point *may* have a space problem, but they have ways to work around it, making it no problem.
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Monday, July 28, 2003 5:34 PM
The parking lot rumor has been around longer than Magnum has been sinking. Here's a post
Cedar Point better do something, though, before they run out of space.
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Monday, July 28, 2003 5:35 PM
Nah, they're going to use fill dirt and build a whole new penninsula. Sort of like what they did in Hong Kong to get more room for a new airport to replace the old Kai Tek Int'l.
Well, not really.
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Monday, July 28, 2003 6:03 PM
Don't lose any sleep over the monorail. It's too expensive, kills the sight lines down the causeway and it would destroy the juicy parking revenue if folks staying off the causeway can just walk over to the monorail for free.
My guess is that if it ever did happen -- if they found a way to move parking off the peninsula or build a parking garage on the peninsula -- it wouldn't be to add to Cedar Point anyway. Why? The place is huge as it is. It would go to add another resort hotel and take a page out of the Knott's playbook (which took the page from Disney and Universal) by building a year-round entertainment Citywalk complex with restaurants, a FEC, clubs and a few challenge park add-on attractions. That's about the only thing holding back Cedar Fair from making Cedar Point a true all-inclusive resort destination, and it's about the only move that would justify the capital expenditure.
Monday, July 28, 2003 8:45 PM
I think a nice idea whould be a free ferry from parking lot to the peninsula.
Monday, July 28, 2003 8:47 PM
They were going to move all the parking off the peninsula for the 1978 season...
...we're still waiting...
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Monday, July 28, 2003 10:28 PM
"my version of the rumor said it was supposed to
go in a part of the main parking lot and then out over Lake Erie into a tunnel
going under the lake"
Thanks Walt for that link, this quote makes my day complete. King of all Whoppers.
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Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:18 AM
I would imagine that CP would rather maintain parking on the peninsula and build a large parking deck on site rather than build a monorail to shuttle people. It's too expensive, and would be a logistical nightmare for the park (ever try to get out of the Magic Kingdom at closing time? It's at least an hour to get to your car). The parking arrangement is undoubtedly something that they would have to look at (at least I think it is) in the future to make room for new rides and attractions.
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Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:25 AM
They could make multi-level parking like at maybe some of our local malls etc. Now that I think of it Cedar Point has alot of room to exspand in the future they just need caution where, and how they build.
Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:27 AM
This goes back to the Radisson expansion and I had mentioned that there is an empty parking lot across Rt. 6 that employees currently park in. I had suggested that they might consider building a parking deck there to accommodate the guests of Radisson/Fridays/Waterpark if the hotel were expanded into the existing lot.
As for moving the regular parking lot across the bay to the mainland, I don't see it happening for a long time. Not only do they not own enough land to accommodate those big Universal-type decks, there is another issue...one of traffic.
The Causeway stacks up quite a bit with traffic now on busy days. (Not too mention many people can still come in off the chausee.) That traffic ends up backing up onto Clevelend Rd and then eventually back to 250. If the decks were built in the approximate area of Breakers Express (not that there is any room) the traffic would be terrible...backing up all the way down 250 towards the turnpike.
You all keep wishing for a monorail and parking deck.
Tuesday, July 29, 2003 7:29 AM
I don't see what the big deal is about a monorail and standing in a long line to leave. That's all I do when I go there anyways is stand in long lines. I wait in line to get off the highway. I wait in line to turn right onto the causeway. I wait in line at the toll booths. I wait in line to enter the park when it opens. I wait in line to go on rides. I wait in line to get food. I wait in traffic lines trying to leave the parking lot. I've even stood in a line to leave the park. What's the big deal?!!!
Wood - anything else is an imitation
Tuesday, July 29, 2003 7:30 AM
Not that it won't happen or isn't true but I've been hearing that one as long as I've been hearing that CP is out of room, which has been since I was a little kid in the early 80's, But I was wondering if they are going to use the soak city area for park expansion since they seem to be building an indoor water park by the radison?
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Tuesday, July 29, 2003 7:44 AM
Let's put this "Radisson Indoor Waterpark is the replacement for Soak City" idea to rest once and for all.
Consider the following, the Great Bear Lodge's Indoor Waterpark is 33,000 square feet. (Pretty good sized.)
Soak City is 18 acres or 784,100 sq ft.
No matter what they do at Radisson it will be nowhere near 18 acres. It will not replace Soak City and it isn't intended to. It is being built to boost the occupancy of the Radisson during the winter. Period.
Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:30 PM
I think that making the parking lot into a multi level parking ramp or moving it off the peninsula and having a monorail is the most viable way for them to gain space on the peninsula. No, CP does NOT have a space problem, however the space they have is very restricted by the midway design that has been in place since 1969. Universal did a parking expansion back in 1998 when they were preparing for the traffic of Islands of Adventure being added to the congestion that was already there. I think that instead of adding some big attraction that we could settle for some parking infastrucure improvements to make things better in the long run.
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Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:50 AM
Sure they can build parking decks...if you want to pay 20 bucks to park...parking decks are extremely
expensive to build vs. the cost to build surface lots.
They could probably still take some of the existing lot for expansion if they wanted to...cars would just be a bit further away.
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