Cedar "Counter" Point
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:51 AM
2 B&M's, 3 S&S wood, 1 verkoma, no Intamin, and lots of mouse coasters and flats for 04 so far. All being constructed outside the SF chain. It Doesn't look pretty. Six Flags owns such a lion's share of the market. How will SF effect the rest of the industry?
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:05 PM
Anyway, I'd say it's the smaller parks that are going to affect things, not SF. More and more people will visit those parks next year and thereafter until SF learns that people want more out of a park than million-dollar rides.
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:08 PM
The "industry" is a lot more than roller coasters. The "industry" also has flat rides, ticket printers, pretzel makers and garbage can manufacturers.
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:17 PM
I don't think Six Flags' troubles affect other parks, I think the same troubles that affect Six Flags also affect the other parks. You're mixing up the positions of the causes and effects. ;)
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:28 PM
I would say SF has a lot to do with the U.S. market, but not the world market. You could sell to Asia alone and be very well off. Projects aren't falling in manufacturer's laps like in the late 90's, but if you have an aggressive worldwide sales force you can weather the storm.
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:36 PM
Effect CAN be a verb, and often is....
Six Flags has the capacity to effect change in the relationship between ride manufacturers and park chains. There, that wasn't so hard! ;)
Adam, I certainly believe that making good rides, and marketing them "effectively", can keep a business going even without SF. But, as SF has picked up the lion's share of US markets, it certainly *behooves* manufacturers to actively court SF's business as well.
Seriously, SF has purchased most of what they need ride wise, and will do some "filling in" over the next decade or so, but the parks in Europe still have SOME active growth left and Asia is virtually untapped outside of Japan. With the world economy rebounding in '04-'05, I would expect to see more parks going up in Eastern Europe (Transylvania perhaps, LOL) and especially Southeast Asia....the new global economy ROCKS!!
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:55 PM
Gator - the only way "effect" can be a verb is when it means to cause or accomplish... i.e., a cold front effects rain. This is a fairly obscure usage, eh?
/striving for off-topicness
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:58 PM
according to the dictionary... its a verb if used as
effected effects effecting
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 3:11 PM
Only in the sense I described above. Otherwise it's affect, affecting, affected.
Usually "effect" is a noun... i.e. What are the effects of riding SoB 94 times in a row? Riding SoB that many times really could affect your spine.
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 3:41 PM
Den....that's the way I used it...."to cause, or bring about". Fairly obscure, meh, I guess I can *except* that...:)
bill, causing English teachers to pull their hair out since 1967...:)
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:00 PM
Why bother? Just use "impact" for everything... ;)
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:05 PM
I don't think we have anything to worry about. Look at Microsoft when they where in legal trouble. All it will do is give other parks a chance to get bigger and better. SF shares were up 31 cents today closing at $6.90. I own a bunch!!
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:34 PM
Den and gator, you've got to stop... you're collectively raising the literacy quotient of the entire board in one thread!
You make me proud. :)
Colin "the out-of-work copyeditor" D.
*** Six Flags' troubles (and if by that you mean not installing a slew of coasters for once) may have little effect other than forcing the company to bolster things like infrastructure and guest relations. It could be the best thing to happen to Six Flags and the worst thing to happen to its competitors. The glass doesn't have to be half-empty.
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 5:58 PM
Aww man, too bad you don't live out here in San Diego. We might be looking for contract copyeditors soon.
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:18 PM
How much do contract copy editors make in San Diego? I might be willing to move. ;) (FYI my current job is editing... of the newspaper variety).
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:23 PM
And, to be really picky, there's no '"r" in Vekoma (pronounced Vay-koma, according to one of their technicians who was working on Batwing).
Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:50 PM
And also, what do you mean no Intamin? Can you say Storm Runner?