Coney Wildcat

Monday, February 24, 2003 4:20 PM
I am currently building a model of the Coney Island Wildcat. I have a copy of the prints and many pictures but I was wondering if anyone knows what the trains on the ride looked like and if anyone has any pictures of them. Also, when I finish the Wildcat I am going to build another PTC ride. I don't know which one to do so if anyone has any ideas, please let me know. Thanks
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Monday, February 24, 2003 7:02 PM
How about Roller Coaster at Joyland Wichita Kansas. A very fine Schmeck and getting photos and maybe even meaurements would not be that hard.
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Jim Wolgamuth
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Monday, February 24, 2003 7:31 PM
I don't know if there are any pictures but www.coneyislandpark.com has a history section.

Chuck

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Charles Nungester.
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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:35 AM
How about Hershey's Comet? Or if you want something more simple, the Canobie Yankee Cannonball.

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-Rob

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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:49 AM
Kudos Mr. Schmeck ( I like the name LOL) to your project. I'd love to see it when completed. I assume you've seen the new book by Charles Jaques Jr, and have the video from 10 years ago. You're right, there aren't any pics of the trains. The video shows PTC's for the Shooting Star, and in one small clip, shows NADs, for what appears to be the Star though.

Another site on PTC coasters showed a park in PA that had another Wildcat coaster, and it used 2-car, 4 bench trains. I don't know what else to tell ya, other than head to the park itself. They will have pics of the trains, and if you don't see anything hanging up around the games area (huge B&W pics there), ask at the office. Tell them what you are doing, and more often than not, the whole office will spring to life in reaction to someone paying a tribute to the park's history! :)

If you haven't started on the model, perhaps you can wait a few weeks until the park opens for that. But in the mean time, the book is great reference for the coaster itself. And note that Kings Dominion's Grizzly and Canada's Wonderland's Wilde Beast are copies of the Coney Wildcat. Good luck!

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Brad Sherman
"Crying is for little girls, babies and men who just had their ears ripped off!" - Oobedoob "Scoobi-doobi" Benubi, Thumb Wars
Model coasters and rides

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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:52 AM
The Hersheypark Comet has hilly terrain so I can't build that one but the Cannonball and Roller Coaster are two I didn't think of. They would be easy but they are long out and backers. I would have to build them in sections. If anyone out their has a website that I could maybe post the pictures when I finish It pleae let me know. Right now the structure is about half done. Thanks for the help and suggestions.
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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:01 AM
What is the scale?

Jim Wolgamuth
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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:06 AM
The model is 1 ft equals 100ft

The base is 6ft by 2ft and at the lift is 9 inches tall. It is a static model.

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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:43 AM
Sounds great. Hope you find a site to host the photos. There are several of us model coaster builders so maybe we should start a model coaster site. Have photos, tips, info to help other model builders. I have no idea how expensive it is to have a decent site but will look into it and see.
My model is 1:22.5 scale which is a popular model railroad scale. Got some photos up at;
http://hometown.aol.com/jimwolg/myhomepage/photo.html
Until you find a site maybe you could use a free page like I did.

Jim Wolgamuth
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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:13 AM
Jim, a good site can be hosted for about five bucks a month. Email me if you would like help, I'd be glad to assist you.

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Please visit the small parks. We don't know what's happening behind the scenes
Woodencoaster.com

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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:05 PM

If your looking for a ride modeling site you should check out the Yahoo Group found here. Very helpful. There are some other really good sites, but the better of which are in German. You should also check out http://ride-n-rumors.com - it's not in English, but the pictures are really good ;).
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The Other Siebert
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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:14 PM
Another lost classic PTC was the Wildcat at Elitch Gardens. Of course, then you would have to also build a model of MR. Twister so that they could intertwine.
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Tuesday, February 25, 2003 9:12 PM
You could tey your hand at the now defunct Mountain Flyer.

http://www.rcdb.com/installationdetail2059.htm

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"If you make it too smooth, it'll be like sitting in your living room."
-Bill Cobb - Designer, Texas Cyclone

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Friday, February 28, 2003 6:11 AM
JWolg,what material are you using for track rails?I am going to build a 1:48 model of the PNE Coaster for use on a On30 layout,utilizing Bachmann On30 rolling stock.
Also,I took delivery of the new On30 T-boiler Shay loco and it is SWEET!

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Lets' save the Vancouver PNE Coaster before its'too late!

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Friday, February 28, 2003 7:17 AM
Personally, if you ask me build a model of the Idora Park Wildcat! :-)
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YOUNGSTOWN 2010
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Friday, February 28, 2003 8:40 AM
Ronald- I used to build On30 back before Bachman brought out their line. Had a MDC Shay I converted. Then I switched to Sn3 for awhile and still got some unfinished White Pass & Yukon diesel kits. Last 10 years or so I have been into LGB which is why my model is in 1:22.5 scale.
I really like the Bachman On30 line and may go get some of them someday. Any room in the Shay for sound or DCC?
Not sure what I am going to use to simulate the steel on my woodie. Going to test out some RC airplane pinstriping tape that I have that would look good as the steel but not sure if I will work ok or not.
So do you have a layout started/done/planned for your On30 empire?
Nice to talk to fellow slim gauge fan:)

Jim Wolgamuth
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Friday, February 28, 2003 10:07 AM
jkp,

I ordered blueprints of the Idora Park Wildcat (bow in its memory) and was amazed. (you can order them from that site I gave you, or email me and i'll give you the phone number) That ride was more twisted than I imagineed. I guess it was just one in many excellent Schmeck creations at the time, but that would have been a great time to be in Ohio.

Aside from the classics like the Big Dipper and Screechin Eagle, we had the Wildcat (Idora, Coney) and the other Wildcat at Lakeside Park in Dayton Cedar Point had their Cyclone and there was also a Wildcat near Ravenna. We were indeed saturated with quality wooden rides from the 20s until the 50s/70s. I hope PTC has archived the blueprints from Herb Schmeck and John Allen.

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Please visit the small parks. We don't know what's happening behind the scenes
Woodencoaster.com

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Saturday, March 1, 2003 7:40 AM
Jim,
The Shay is already set up for sound and DCC. I am also a G scale modeler. I plan on building an outdoor railraod with a logging/shortline theme. The On30 layout will be built once I finsh my basement.

Ron Anderson
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Lets' save the Vancouver PNE Coaster before its'too late!
*** This post was edited by Ronald S. Anderson 3/1/2003 12:41:47 PM ***

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Saturday, March 1, 2003 7:14 PM
On30, sweet! I'm a Wabash N scaler myself, but I'd love to see pics of your layout when it's done. You must have an easier time finding logging equip. than I do Wabash! Thank God for KATO and the new Athearn Genesis series though. Sometimes I'm glad I grew up in the flat midwest! Mountain makin is not my forte!

The Mountain Flyer Black_7 mentioned can be seen in the video called Gone but not Forgotten. Sad film too :( All those coasters lost to time.
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Brad Sherman
"Crying is for little girls, babies and men who just had their ears ripped off!" - Oobedoob "Scoobi-doobi" Benubi, Thumb Wars
Arrowed!

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Saturday, March 1, 2003 8:03 PM
Wabash in N scale is impossible Brad. Ugh

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Da Poodle

Coming in 2003-The Spawn Of Magnum!

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