Collossus on the chopping block?

Friday, November 30, 2007 8:44 PM
This was reported a while ago. It's ashame of what has become of a 'legendary' ride. Anyone ride it when it had NAD trains?

Would be nice to replace it with a GCI dueling coaster if they really get rid of it. Admittedly, the ride is pretty 'inert' as is.

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Friday, November 30, 2007 8:49 PM
Reported? When? Source?

And yes, I rode it with the original NAD trains. The ride was stellar until the double-down was removed and steel I-beam used for wood track bed.

EDIT:

http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/?p=1002

The Mountain’s Sue Carpenter said nothing could be further from the truth. Déjà Vu — as well as the classic wooden Colossus and the $20-million Superman: The Escape, also on Screamscape’s endangered list — are “off limits” to the wrecking ball, she said.

*** Edited 12/1/2007 1:51:47 AM UTC by Mamoosh***

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Friday, November 30, 2007 8:54 PM
It was reported somewhere recently, I can't remember :(

So how was the ride compared from NAD to PTC to Morgan. Unfortunately for me, I didn't ride it until '95, with the plastic trains and double dip removed.

During those first 2 years, that speedbump at the bottom of drop #2 was quite severe. I can't find a pic, but it was on "America Screams" when they are building it and Vincent Price is riding. Before the accident.

The ride was always so "big" in the movies. I used to think, geez it's as big as the (American) Eagle!!!

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Friday, November 30, 2007 8:59 PM
Actually, the accident was the first year - 12/26/78. It was first reprofiled before it reopened for 1979. The Vincent Price thing was a few years later, wasn't it? The double-down didn't come out until 1990-1991.
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Friday, November 30, 2007 9:01 PM
I'm pretty sure America Screams was filmed in '77 or '78, the same year as Gary Kyrazi's book, which had pics of the filming.

Anyone have pics of Collossus pre-reprofiled? I remember that double dip being removed so they could add a brake and run 3 trains. Did they ever do this? I've never seen the ride run with 3 trains per side...

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Friday, November 30, 2007 9:04 PM
I don't remember much of a difference between the NAD and PTC trains. Basically the ride kicked ass until the double-dip was removed.

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Friday, November 30, 2007 9:08 PM
Kicked ass with the Morgans? Aw come on moosh :) When they went from NAD to PTC, the trains were shorter as well. They added 'chains' to the lapbars after the accident. How bout that Rollercoaster Fever mag!
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Saturday, December 1, 2007 8:57 PM
Well of course the Morgans were definitely a step down from the NADs and PTCs in terms of ride quality, but prior to the park taking the knife to the ride even the Morgans weren't half bad.
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Saturday, December 1, 2007 9:11 PM
Watchin this "America Screams" video. Man they were building that ride like it was gonna be the ultimate! Kinda similar to building screamin and american eagles....

The speed hill at the bottom of the 2nd drop is at least 20 feet shorter now than it was when it was built (calculating using the old approx of 6' distance between ribbon boards) man that thing was major air time! ouch! *** Edited 12/2/2007 2:19:50 AM UTC by J7G3***

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Saturday, December 1, 2007 10:40 PM
I found the ride to be quite fun when I rode it last fall. I hope it stays.
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Saturday, December 1, 2007 11:54 PM
According to the park's PR rep, it is. See the second post.
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Sunday, December 2, 2007 12:01 AM
It's amazing to me that a PR rep would say that. She has no say in those types of decisions. Last year she said Freefall was safe. Obviously it isn't.
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Sunday, December 2, 2007 12:28 AM
Well of course you have to consider the source, and where she gets her info.
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Sunday, December 2, 2007 12:42 AM

DWeaver said:It's amazing to me that a PR rep would say that. She has no say in those types of decisions. Last year she said Freefall was safe. Obviously it isn't.

While not having any *say*, she is the person appointed to represent the park's decisions. Corporate may change their mind later. I'd bet if asked directly, she'd say that Freeall was indeed "safe" last season, and that "NOW, it isn't".

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Sunday, December 2, 2007 1:10 PM
Another "SFMM IS SINKING" thread? :)
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Sunday, December 2, 2007 3:02 PM

DWeaver said:
It's amazing to me that a PR rep would say that. She has no say in those types of decisions.

Next you'll be telling me Paula Werne didn't design The Raven herself. By hand.

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Sunday, December 2, 2007 3:56 PM
^ I was under the impression that she didn't design it, but she built it by herself. By hand.
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Sunday, December 2, 2007 5:42 PM
I'm so glad to hear that Collossus is staying. I think it may have been on here a couple weeks or so ago where there was a rumor that it may be on the chopping block (I didn't make it up!).

How about Revolution? A little tweeking to the track before and after the loop, I think the thing would be fine to run exactly as it was intended - no shoulder bars and no headrests (at least lets get rid of the shoulder bars and all those wretched brakes!).

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Sunday, December 2, 2007 6:25 PM

matt. said:

DWeaver said:
It's amazing to me that a PR rep would say that. She has no say in those types of decisions.

Next you'll be telling me Paula Werne didn't design The Raven herself. By hand.


Nah, I'm pretty much done. ;)

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Sunday, December 2, 2007 6:32 PM
A couple questions:

1- What was the "accident" on Colossus?

2- Why did they put all of the brakes, OTSR, and headrests on the Revolution?

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