Coasters without lap bars

Wednesday, October 1, 2003 8:02 AM
When I went to conneaut lake park earlier this year and rode the blue streak, i was surprised to see that the cars did not have a lap bar but rather had only a leather strap with a chain to restrain the rider. Just wondering what type of train was being used and whether any other parks have a coaster operating without lapbars.

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 8:06 AM
The Jack Rabbit at >Kennywood> has a little bar that is only there to hold onto and a leather seat belt that has two settings on it loose and super loose. I guess that depends on how big you are though. ;) The same with Leap the Dips at Lakemont Park that only has the same kind of bars as the Jack Rabbit no seat belt.

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 8:08 AM
The Jackrabbit at Kennywood has just a leather strap. I was kinda shocked when I first rode it. Beautiful old trains , Very comfortable seats... Nice Air on the double down. Glad that leather strap was there !

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 8:08 AM
Scariest ride without lapbars = Kennywood's Jackrabbit. Just a steel pipe welded to the seat in front of you and a thin leather strap.

Nothing like feeling your entire weight being pressed into a seat belt, then feeling your body being dragged down the next hill by the train!


EDIT: Dang, I see everyone agrees! ;)
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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 8:08 AM
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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 8:10 AM
I'm starting to think that it is not all that unusual:

Off the top of my head:

With out lap bars or belts (just a grab bar):

Lakemont's Leap the Dips, Idlewild's Rollocoaster

With out lap bars but with some sort of belt (but with a grab bar):

Kennywood's Jack Rabbit

With out lap bars but with (or in rare cases with out) a belt and no forward grab bar (but places to hold on to the sides):

Night Mare at Crack Axel Canyon (and other Jet Star, City Jet, Jumbo Jet, etc models), Flitzer models, some older model Wild Mice with in line seating.

And those are just the ones off the top of my head...

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 8:15 AM
IIRC Rollercoaster at Blackpool Pleasure Beach only has grab handles - not sure if that's changed though as it's been a while since I rode it.

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 8:38 AM
The Idora Park Wildcat had a bar in front of the seat, which was non adjustable.

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 8:50 AM
I forgot about jet stars and flitzers. Its just kind of surprising to see on a wood coaster where you feel so exposed. On the jet stars and flitzers you kind of feel like your in the car anyway and frankly theres not much airtime on those rides.

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 8:55 AM
Rollo Coaster at Idlewild has a stationary bar much like Jackrabbit or Blue Streak. I don't remember if there are seatbelts.

Those small Hershell? mouse rides - Mad Mouse/Monster Mouse are lacking bars and seatbelts.
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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 9:03 AM
Wild Chipmunk (Carl Miler) has seating just like a log flume (aka no restraints). That's definitely not the scariest part of that ride, though. ;)
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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 9:24 AM
And technically, most coasters with OTSRs (or is it all?) lack lap bars.
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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 9:29 AM

mutly23 said:
Just wondering what type of train was being used and whether any other parks have a coaster operating without lapbars.

The Lakeside Cyclone in Denver has a stationary bar too.

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 10:02 AM

Invy said:
IIRC Rollercoaster at Blackpool Pleasure Beach only has grab handles - not sure if that's changed though as it's been a while since I rode it.

That is still the case, at least as of last summer when we were there...

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 10:31 AM
Jim, it's *most*....Revolution features BOTH lap bars and OTSR's, for that I'm so safe my ears hurt type of feeling. I can't think of any others, but I'd guess the only others would be coasters retrofitted with OSTR's...
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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 11:06 AM
If my memory serves me right, Matterhorn at Disneyland only has a seatbelt, though it is adjustable which is more than some older coasters have...

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 11:23 AM
millrace said:
Rollo Coaster at Idlewild has a stationary bar much like Jackrabbit or Blue Streak. I don't remember if there are seatbelts.
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No seat belts on Rollo Coaster, just the bar.

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 11:37 AM
Yeah Roller Coaster at Blackpool Pleasure Beach has no restraints whatsoever, not even a seatbelt. I think its a really fun ride, you are literally standing up on the bunnyhops towards the end.
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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 12:18 PM
Roller Coaster at Blackpool still has no restraints. This year it is running fantastically too with some really fun airtime on the second drop and the run back towards the station.

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Wednesday, October 1, 2003 12:24 PM
PT300-I would agree, the scariest part of The Wild Chipmunk is either looking at the ride, or the feeling of terror that comes when you realize your spleen may have just been ruptured. :) Still a great ride, and a ton of fun.

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