Coasters expensive= good?
In your opinon does an expensive coaster equal a good one? It usually means a high one and such, but do you think they are all top 10s? Also, do you think that when parks build them do you think they are listening to your posts and such? Or, do you think it's just marketing and advertising? OR, do you just not care?
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Georgia Scorcher...OH yeah it's fire baby!!! *** This post was edited by ScorcherCongo on 4/10/2001. ***
I'll take a $4 million CCI to a $12 million Vekoma SLC any time.
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Jeff
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Jeff
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my vote would go with Marketing. A bigger coaster means more people will flock to see it / ride it.
Is it smart? Who knows. With steel coasters it may be, however wood is a different story. The book "The American Rollercoaster" sums it up like this... with wood bigger is not always better. "Mid sized" coasters are a) cheaper to build b) cheaper to maintain c) often times more exciting. As they stated in the book, it is foolish to build a huge wooden coaster that will cost a huge amount of $ and will eventually tear itself apart just to get some short lived record.
Personally, I happen to agree with that statement. Places like Hersheypark (Wildcat, Lightning Racer), Knoebels (Twister), Busch Gardens Tampa (Gwasi) all seem to agree too. These are some very exciting coasters in my opinion but I don't think any of them top out at more than 100ft.
*** This post was edited by SLFAKE on 4/10/2001. *** *** This post was edited by SLFAKE on 4/10/2001. ***
Is it smart? Who knows. With steel coasters it may be, however wood is a different story. The book "The American Rollercoaster" sums it up like this... with wood bigger is not always better. "Mid sized" coasters are a) cheaper to build b) cheaper to maintain c) often times more exciting. As they stated in the book, it is foolish to build a huge wooden coaster that will cost a huge amount of $ and will eventually tear itself apart just to get some short lived record.
Personally, I happen to agree with that statement. Places like Hersheypark (Wildcat, Lightning Racer), Knoebels (Twister), Busch Gardens Tampa (Gwasi) all seem to agree too. These are some very exciting coasters in my opinion but I don't think any of them top out at more than 100ft.
*** This post was edited by SLFAKE on 4/10/2001. *** *** This post was edited by SLFAKE on 4/10/2001. ***
Jeff said:
"I'll take a $4 million CCI to a $12 million Vekoma SLC any time."
Amen Jeff, Amen!!
BTW: Who says an SLC is a "cheap" way of getting an inverted into a park? If Jeff is correct with the 12 Million figure (and I am pretty sure he is), for only a few million more, you could have something like Talon. It was what, 15 Mil? 3 Mil difference between the SLC and Talon, I think the choice would be obvious.
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"X" marks the spot in 2001!
Geauga Lake paid $10 million for their SLC, and that was back in '98. That is what they announced.
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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
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Jeff
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I'd spend a few extra bucks for an Intamin or B&M Invert for my park! You get what you pay for.
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- Peabody
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- Peabody
For Steel Yes expensive = good
For added theming Yes expensive = good
but for woodies, no. expensive doesnt = good
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Dust myself up
and I scream at the sky
-Max Cavalera
For added theming Yes expensive = good
but for woodies, no. expensive doesnt = good
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Dust myself up
and I scream at the sky
-Max Cavalera
I have a feeling that many parks go with a $12 million Vekoma instead of a $15 million B&M invert because of the ride's availability. If rumors are true of a "waiting list" for B&M coasters, that means that a park that decides on one of their creations today may not see it open until 2003 or 2004. I seriously doubt that there is such a waiting period for a ride like a Boomerang or SLC, which are more or less "stock items". I am pretty sure that a park that ordered one of those coasters now could see it operating by the end of the year, if it was open year-round.
Out of the Top Ten tallest woodies in North America, my ratings:
1st Son Of Beast (9.5/10)
2nd Rattler (no ride)
3rd Mean Streak (6/10)
4th Hercules (2/10)
5th Texas Giant (9.75/10)
6th Beast (10/10)
7th Monstre (no ride)
8th American Eagle (7/10)
9th Colossus (no ride)
Shivering Timbers (10/10)
10th Boss (no ride)
I guess size matters depending on design, train, brakes, etc. It just depends. I love the speed and force(SOB, Beast). But the airtime(ST) drives me insane. I love that.
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1st Son Of Beast (9.5/10)
2nd Rattler (no ride)
3rd Mean Streak (6/10)
4th Hercules (2/10)
5th Texas Giant (9.75/10)
6th Beast (10/10)
7th Monstre (no ride)
8th American Eagle (7/10)
9th Colossus (no ride)
Shivering Timbers (10/10)
10th Boss (no ride)
I guess size matters depending on design, train, brakes, etc. It just depends. I love the speed and force(SOB, Beast). But the airtime(ST) drives me insane. I love that.
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