CoasterBuzz Video: Opening Thunderbird

Posted Friday, May 8, 2015 11:53 AM | Contributed by Jeff

Holiday World & Splashin' Safari in Santa Claus, Indiana is a roller coaster enthusiast favorite for its intense wooden roller coasters. For 2015, the park has opened Thunderbird, a launched B&M wing roller coaster. We had a chance to talk to some of the people at the park who helped make the ride a reality.

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kpjb

Friday, May 8, 2015 12:31 PM
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"Thunderbird: Inspired by Ewoks"®


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Bakeman31092

Friday, May 8, 2015 1:22 PM
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Nice work Jeff, excellent video!

I really like the flywheel concept. Seems much less complicated than the hydraulic-turbine-powered winch used for the Intamin rocket coasters.


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Jeff

Friday, May 8, 2015 1:33 PM
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To be clear, the flywheels don't really launch the train, the LSM's do. The LSM's just need electricity to do it, and they're not willing to rely on the capacity of the electric utility to do it. I believe the Intamin rides using LIM/LSM systems use some kind of capacitors as intermediate storage instead of flywheels.


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kpjb

Friday, May 8, 2015 2:49 PM
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Premier does it the same way. I wonder if they use the same company for the launch design.


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Raven Maven

Friday, May 8, 2015 7:17 PM

Remarkable job, Jeff - thanks so much for taking the time to create this. (Those red-nosed interviews will always remind me we were under a frost advisory on media preview day. Oh, and that we're in the town of Santa Claus.) #WillPower


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ApolloAndy

Saturday, May 9, 2015 2:34 AM
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Cool stuff. Nice to have the insight into the coaster industry side, but equally nice to have the insight into the human side.


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RCMAC

Saturday, May 9, 2015 3:03 AM

I love how the video turned out, and Andy's right. Their thought process and the events during the planning stages is very interesting to me. The girls seem so genuine, and it's nice to get a coaster story featuring park operators that doesn't sound like canned corporate speak.

And I'm in it! (don't blink...)

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Jeff

Saturday, May 9, 2015 3:43 AM
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The "kids" have serious instinct, and that's clear when you talk to them. I get the feeling that they were absolutely paying attention to their dad, and they have a humility about them today as they learn from others on their board, as well as senior staff. The park is in good hands.


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Jeff

Saturday, May 9, 2015 1:11 PM
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Here's a timely video showing how much energy a flywheel can store:

There isn't a spring or anything here, that thing is moving on the power stored in the flywheel. Now for Thunderbird, imagine that wheel, which was spun up by motors, is connected to a generator, and you get the idea of transferring electrical energy to mechanical energy and back.


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Bakeman31092

Saturday, May 9, 2015 2:03 PM
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It's kind of like how the eddy current brakes work, except instead of slow the train down the generator slows the flywheel down, and instead if dissipating the energy as heat, the energy gets routed to the LSMs.

Jeff, do you know if the same motors used to spin up the flywheels are switched to generators, or do they use separate generators?


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Jeff

Saturday, May 9, 2015 3:08 PM
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That's a question for James Olliver, but I imagine it's possible. I think hybrids and electric cars work that way.


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LostKause

Saturday, May 9, 2015 3:26 PM
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Some of my toys I had when I was a kid seemed to work the same way the tank in the video Jeff just shared works. Is it the same thing?


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Bakeman31092

Saturday, May 9, 2015 4:19 PM
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You're right that is how hybrids work. The driving motor turns into a braking generator whenever the brakes are applied and the energy is sent back to the batteries.


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decil76

Monday, May 11, 2015 9:31 PM

Excellent video. Perfect mix of enthusiast details and backstory of the decision process. I even teared up a bit in spots.

This park really does try to do things right. Moving the swing ride into that great looking plaza is another example. It adds another ride that family can ride into the area and it's a much better placement of the ride then it's old location. Now it has great views on all sides and just seems like it belongs there. I hope that plaza looks as good in person as it does in the videos.


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a_hoffman50

Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:13 PM
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Thunderbird Plaza is awesome. It is a great shady spot to just hang out in.

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Jeff

Sunday, May 17, 2015 12:09 AM
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Is it? One of the hard things to measure when I shot the video was how the trees affected the area and the ride, because they had not yet filled in.


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Regulus

Sunday, May 17, 2015 4:14 AM

July 6 can't get here soon enough!


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slithernoggin

Sunday, May 17, 2015 10:46 PM
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Just watched the video (I'm an old fuddy-duddy; I don't like having to watch moving pictures on tiny screens). Well done! It was fascinating to hear them speak at length about the ride.


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