CoasterBuzz Podcast #149 posted

Posted Monday, July 27, 2009 8:14 PM | Contributed by Jeff

Jeff, Mike and Pat review this week's news in the amusement industry.

  • Wild West World's new owner says economy slowing re-development, while former owner goes on trial for taking investors' money. Is being a crappy businessman illegal?
  • The "every sponge," SpongeBob Squarepants has been around now for ten years. This brings up the credible rumor that Cedar Fair is going to ditch the Nickelodeon license, which might be stupid for a lot of reasons. It's not just about merchandise, it's about the experience. Replacing with Peanuts won't be the same.
  • OSHA jumps in on Dueling Dragons accident.
  • The Dells are saying you can't run your amusement park late. Owner points out that's pretty stupid, seeing as how bars can be open late and, uh, it's Wisconsin Dells. What else is there to do?
  • Give Kids The World Village hits volunteer hour milestone. CoasterBuzz would appreciate your donation to this awesome charity.
  • Schlitterbahn opens new water park in Kansas City.
  • No proposal for Coney Island will ever make everyone happy.
  • Legoland California attendance way up with new aquarium, and people are spending more to see it all. Aquariums are cool. Check out the one in Baltimore's Inner Harbor if you ever get a chance.
  • Is the capital intensive nature of the industry something it did to itself? How is it that Orlando can get away with so much less?
  • Cedar Fair has a Ride Warrior site now, and we're wondering what the point is. Meanwhile, the marketing across the company is very one-size-fits-all, an odd symptom of corporate mentality in all aspects of operating the parks. The Cedar Point template for running a park is backward, since it's probably the exception to the rules.
  • A rise in child molestation at water parks, a faux bomb scare in Cedar Point's parking lot, worker falls from BGT sky ride, Sky Ride station at Alton Towers burns, Six Flags says guest satisfaction is up... what's the world coming to?
  • Disney World manages to keep butts in the hotel rooms, and word on the street is that some of the discount deals may persist into December.
  • Discounted food and merchandise is a great perk for season pass holders, so why doesn't Cedar Fair do it? As it is, passholders can be a drain if they visit frequently and don't spend any money.
  • Big Bad Wolf won't be bad much longer, as Busch Williamsburg announces its retirement.
  • Finance blog gives an honest assessment of the Six Flags premium queuing system.
  • CoasterBuzz Club is $25 per year. You can join or renew today. Enjoy CoasterBuzz with no ads.
  • BooBuzz 2009 details posted for Cedar Point!
  • The Fall Affair at Holiday World promises to be a big deal. Register today! Gonch will be there if others show up.

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Monday, July 27, 2009 9:03 PM

FYI: Red Barron Snoopy is in the Great Pumpkin, which many people's favorite holiday special.

Also Snoopy is not to be found in KI, I believe they cant sell Peanuts merchandise there under their current licensing agreement. There is however, a whole lot more Scooby stuff lately then there has been in the past.

Finally, while Sponge Bob and Dora are still showing, every other character in that land no longer has a TV show currently airing on Nick.

Monday, July 27, 2009 9:34 PM
ridemcoaster's avatar

Great Podcast as usual guys.

Couple notes as you know I have to comment on certain parts :)

BBW is a 42" not 48" ride.

Also you can see the village area of BBW during concerts as its the old Drachen Fire area which is adjacent to it. Its not a totally clear shot, but its visible.

Last edited by ridemcoaster, Monday, July 27, 2009 9:35 PM
Monday, July 27, 2009 10:31 PM

Knott's has always given 10% discounts on food and merchandise for annual passholders. However, this year a lot of the places, like Johnny Rockets, are giving 20% off to AP's. I assumed all Cedar Fair parks did the same.

Monday, July 27, 2009 10:38 PM

At CP we get a few discounts, one that Ive used quite heavily recently is the buy a coasters burger, get fries free.

On sunday we can get a 10% discount on Toft Ice Cream Sundaes too.

Monday, July 27, 2009 11:33 PM
Lord Gonchar's avatar

Touchdown said:
Finally, while Sponge Bob and Dora are still showing, every other character in that land no longer has a TV show currently airing on Nick.

Not really true - Rugrats, Danny Phantom, Jimmy Neutron, OddParents all air during the weekend.

Many of the others are no longer airing on Nickelodeon proper, but most are seen on their other stations (Nicktoons, Noggin, etc.) and the really kiddie stuff is mostly being moved to Noggin for it's change to Nick Jr. this fall.

Monday, July 27, 2009 11:35 PM


Since you are in the loop for cartoons, where can one watch Looney Tunes in this day and age?

My favorite MJ tune: "Billie Jean" which I have been listening to alot now. RIP MJ.

Monday, July 27, 2009 11:42 PM
Lord Gonchar's avatar

As far as I know - nowhere on TV except for special occasions (I think Cartoon Network ran some for a marathon of sorts this past New Year's Day), but they're often edited to the point of annoyance.

DVD is the best bet anymore. I try to get my kids to watch them and they do sometimes, but man, I still know most of them word for word. Classic humor done extraordinarily well. Should be required viewing for life in general. :)

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:20 AM
Jeff's avatar

I don't know about CF at large, but at CP, the perks are all ultra-specific and I've never had the right opportunity to use most of them. If I can get a dollar off ice cream during a full moon if it's on Wednesday and it's also Canada Day, and only at Round-Up between 4 and 5 p.m., odds are I'll never use it.

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Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:37 AM

KBF only gives food discounts if you eat at a traditional sit down restaurant. I have thought for a while that KBF should give 25% off of food and merchandise like SFMM does and also that KBF should give out value books mainly for the free and discounted tickets. A Flash Pass system at KBF would also be great. I have not got much use out of the SF food and merchandise coupons but I have used the ticket offers and I use the 25% food discount on every trip.

My mother (1946-2009) once asked me why I go to Magic Mountain so much. I said I feel the most alive when I'm on a roller coaster.
2010 total visits: SFMM-9, KBF-2
2010 total ride laps: 437

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:44 AM
Lord Gonchar's avatar

I wasn't aware of any in-park discounts with my CF pass. They must be doing a good job of keeping it on a need to know basis.

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:49 AM

At KBF the discount info was listed in a small paragraph on the flyer they hand out when you buy or renew your pass. If I would not have read it closely I never would have known. It is not advertised in the park and the clerks never ask you if you have a season pass when you buy something.

My mother (1946-2009) once asked me why I go to Magic Mountain so much. I said I feel the most alive when I'm on a roller coaster.
2010 total visits: SFMM-9, KBF-2
2010 total ride laps: 437

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:46 AM
Lord Gonchar's avatar

Oh, and just for the record:


Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:24 AM
ridemcoaster's avatar

Ahh yes.. The 80s Snoopy rocks! That was taken off the Boomerang network, a spin off of the Cartoon Network (which I vagely remember mentioning in a prior thread)..

Best network ever.. You have a better chance of catching the old great cartoons there. Ive even caught LT on there as well, but as Gonch spoke of, they are clearly edited.

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:02 AM

Six Flags also does the souveneir cup 12.99; free-refills-that-day/.99 the rest of the season thing too. Same for popcorn/cotton candy buckets (8.99/.99).

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:34 AM

^How do they determine if you bought the cup that day or earlier in the season?

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:10 PM
Lord Gonchar's avatar

Wristband, I believe.

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:10 PM

Carbon 14 dating on the saliva around the rim of the cup.

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:16 PM
Kenmei's avatar

FYI, the Loony Tunes dvd sets are absolutely THE way to go if you want to see classic WB toons at their very best. Now if only we could get some uncut classic Tex Avery stuff on dvd. Le sigh.


And as much as I do love the Peanuts (Snoopy = best cartoon dog ever), I have to agree that the Nick franchise is a much more popular draw for the kids. Heck, I'm an Avatar geek and I went into the kids area at KI just to check out that ride.Well, that and to gape like a dork and wonder why we never had stuff that cool when I was a kid.

Watch out for flying maps!

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:49 PM
ridemcoaster's avatar

Unfortunately I got turned on to the "most offensive video" website which features dubbed over Charlie Brown episodes. Now anytime a holiday Charlie Brown show comes out or I see any Peanuts character in the park my mind reverts to those train wreck videos and makes it difficult to enjoy without a sarcastic smile.

I wont even dare include a link. You are smart people.. If you dont know about it and have morbid curiosity, Google the quotes. I guarantee you will never watch a normal charlie brown episode again. Darn my coworkers...


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