CoasterBuzz Podcast #143 posted

Posted Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:07 AM | Contributed by Jeff

Jeff and Pat review this week's news in the amusement industry.

  • Another Coastermania in the books. PointBuzz has the recording of Ron Toomer's talk for download.
  • ERT at Coastermania isn't that exclusive, given the crowd size, but people complained. Gonch asks what the expectation is for events. Jeff reminds people that the park doesn't owe you anything, and this particular event gets you a lot extra for nothing.
  • Jeff recalls a ridiculous story of entitlement on a closing day.
  • FastPass gets a lot of action in the forums. Virtual queuing always gets a rise out of some people, even when it works exceptionally well, as is the case with Disney.
  • Jeff saw Fanboys, the movie about Star Wars geeks road tripping to Skywalker Ranch. It was entertaining.
  • Mom freaks out over Playboy logo poster as a prize at an amusement park.
  • Cedar Fair sends a strongly worded letter to Santa Clara over the 49ers deal. We assume two outcomes: Cedar Fair gets to sell the park or it blocks the stadium project.
  • A lone defender sticks up for Etheredge, the guy who hosed Wild West World.
  • Activists want to force Disney to allow Segways for anyone. Jeff says this would be an epic safety failure.
  • Gravity Group posts video from their new coaster in China. Check out Gravitycast.
  • We appreciate your support of CoasterBuzz by joining the club. It's only $20 per year, and your membership helps support this podcast.
  • Fall Affair at Holiday World, the registration form is up! Get it here.
  • The podcast is like MasterCard... priceless.
  • Gonch wonders if Kings Island ever has slow days, because he's never been there on one.
  • Jeff reviews the Starlight Experience at Cedar Point, and it is good.

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Tuesday, June 9, 2009 6:01 PM
ridemcoaster's avatar

Wow.. How can you name Arrow rides and not remember 30 year old, still operating well, first in interlocking loops, Loch Ness Monster.. Nessie is weeping now.. :)


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Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:05 PM
Jeff's avatar

Oh, is that ride still there? :)


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Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:55 PM

Disagree with the non need for Disney books. Not everyone in the world is park experts like us and things like showing up before opening, doing big rides first, etc. escape them. Those books serve a purpose, especially if you are Mr. American Dad taking Johnny and Jaime to Disney for the first and only time, you want to know what you are doing before you go.

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Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:27 PM
Jeff's avatar

But I'm no expert, and I never go to any of those sites, and somehow I get along pretty well there. If you can read the brochure, you can figure out FastPass. What more do you really need to figure out?


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Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:29 PM

I honestly dont know, but I do know that I have run into so many people at Disney that do not understand the concept.

And Ill admit to buying one of those before my first trip, but that was pre fast pass and during the week before Easter so those "plans" really came in handy.

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Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:03 AM
ridemcoaster's avatar

Im on the fence for the all those Disney guide books.. I agree with Jeff, with respect to how to get around park or use fast pass, it really isnt useful. However if you want a guide to all the restaurants around WDW and see which is $$$$ and which is $, or what restaurant serves lobster, you arent really going to get that level of detail from some of the brouchures around the park. Why else do people stare at the menu boards in front of the restaurants. If you had some of those guide books you would already know the menu in advance.

Some books cater to the "hidden" aspects of the parks as well. I dont think those are useless as you are definitely not going to get that from a park brochure. Some people (such as myself), enjoy the hidden aspects. So I guess it depends on the purpose..

Rides.. eh.. maybe not as useful. High level park info.. Probably more so.

Granted in this day and age anything can be obtained from the interwebs, so really any tree killing compedium could be considered obsolete. But either way you are going to research something about Disney, whether it be online or in a book, or in a brochure. Just a matter of what park subject and the level of detail you want to absorb.

Look at it this way Jeff.. Theres lots of ASP.NET books out there.. I could probably figure out how to code without picking up someones book. But maybe theres some person out there that has a snippet of code that is way more efficient than the way I learned. Thus proving useful. ;)


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Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:59 AM
Jeff's avatar

Are you seriously comparing programming to visiting Disney World? Seriously? No wonder the job market is oversaturated.


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Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:01 AM

But I'm no expert, and I never go to any of those sites, and somehow I get along pretty well there.

But, you do know how crowds move through a park in general, and which styles of attractions do and don't eat people. That bit of understanding goes a long way. A random "civillian" won't understnad which attractions are likely to build lines early, and which ones are not.


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Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:48 AM
Jeff's avatar

No, actually I don't. I think you're grossly over-estimating my Disney knowledge. I go there with no pre-conceived notions. In fact, I pretty much left it up to Diana when we were there in November. Each day started with, "Where do you wanna go?" We were on vacation, not making life plans. The only two "failures" we encountered were that the noodle joint in Magic Kingdom was closed and the safari at Animal Kingdom went "down" because of animals in the road.

I stand by my statement. Disney has it figured out enough that you really don't need to do anything other than read the brochure/guide.


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Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:06 PM

Listening to this podcast, it finally dawned on me who Gonch reminds me of. Voice-wise, he sounds a little bit like he could be one of the Miser Brothers from the old TV special, "Santa Claus Is Coming To Town". He has a very distinctive voice, and once you hear him speak it's hard not to like him.

Gonch, you should seriously think about trying to break into voice-over work.


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Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:16 PM
Lord Gonchar's avatar

Wow. I'll take that as honest compliment. Thanks!

Never thought about voice over stuff. Like most people, I hate hearing my voice.

If anybody has any voice over work availble, I'm willing to do it for whatever amounts to the standard fee. :)


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Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:29 PM
Mamoosh's avatar

You can voice over me any time! ;)

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Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:35 PM

You're welcome. And I'm serious. If the idea isn't repugnant, you ought to at least look into it. :)


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Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:40 PM
Lord Gonchar's avatar

I have no idea how one "breaks into" the voice-over business. I will indeed have to look into it. That'd be cool. I wonder if the Dayton area is a hotbed of voice-over activity?

In the meantime, I think Moosh needs to see me about something...


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Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:57 PM
Mamoosh's avatar

Ahem.

And you're welcome.

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Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:22 PM
ridemcoaster's avatar

Jeff said:
Are you seriously comparing programming to visiting Disney World? Seriously? No wonder the job market is oversaturated.

I admit it was a reach, but there are some small parallels.. People seek guide books to answer questions they may have about a subject..

People want to know how to get around disney.. they seek disney guide books.

People want to know how to get around networks or systems.. They seek guide books.

Honestly they are all called guide books for a reason. Now.. Beyond that are they necessary.. For you.. Maybe not.. For someone else.. Must be, otherwise they wouldn't be published in such volumes..


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Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:31 PM
Lord Gonchar's avatar

Mamoosh said:
Ahem.

And you're welcome.

Doing stuff is hard.


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Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:37 PM
Mamoosh's avatar

I like stuff.

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Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:19 PM
Jeff's avatar

I want Gonch's job. Stay at home dad would rock.


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