CoasterBuzz Podcast #140 posted

Posted Monday, May 18, 2009 6:05 PM | Contributed by Jeff

Jeff and Pat review this week's news in the amusement industry.

  • Gonch has basement issues, and his basement has a mean echo now. Meanwhile, Jeff bought a new bike.
  • Dippin' Dots struggles as the ice cream of the now, with competitors and patent lawsuits. Now they're trying coffee.
  • New Orleans goes after Six Flags for not operating the park there, and it strikes us as a waste of time and taxpayer money given the state of Six Flags, and the state of New Orleans.
  • Gonch thinks that the changes at Freestyle Music Park are at least a lateral move, at worst a step backward from the Hard Rock Park. Jeff still thinks the brand was solid, and the lack of marketing was tragic.
  • Six Flags Great America opens Buccaneer Battle, and we think it's a pretty cool idea. This seems like an example of Six Flags doing more of the right thing.
  • Dollywood opens a $1 million show, and it's brilliant that they sell a CD with the music from the show. Why doesn't Disney do this for the [i]Nemo[/i] musical?
  • Six Flags Over Georgia pours a lot of money into a classic dark boat ride, and Gonch says it's more of an experience enhancement to bring people back than a marketable attraction.
  • Chippewa Lake finally sees new development after being an amusement ghost park for decades.
  • Cedar Fair vs. Six Flags CEO optimism. Dick sets expectations low, Mark says he's optimistic. Do Six Flags parks do a lot of company picnic business?
  • NYC economic development PR fail.
  • Jeff goes to Cedar Point's opening day to ridiculous crowds.
  • We appreciate your support of CoasterBuzz by joining the club. It's only $20 per year, and your membership helps support this podcast.

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Monday, May 18, 2009 8:54 PM

Jeff most weekends(in busy season) I have seen SFOG have company picnics at the pavilion.I guess companies buy admissions with a picnic pass For lunch .
I have even seen them do two companies at the same time.

There is a sign by the road/path to the pavilion that says something to the effect For invited guests of AT&T only

I assume Six flags is doing the catering.Six Flags uniform employee's are doing the serving .You can see there from ninja real well and ninja does not usually have a line.

P.S. I am very amused by the freestyle music park ad that is on the right side while listening to gonch trash the park

Last edited by kevin38, Monday, May 18, 2009 9:48 PM
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Monday, May 18, 2009 10:05 PM

Why doesn't Disney do this for the Nemo musical?

They do---I own a copy. Disney's been doing this sort of thing for a while now for several different attractions, parades, etc.

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Monday, May 18, 2009 10:17 PM

Finding Nemo: The Musical is even on iTunes.

As for the show at Dollywood. It was good but not great. The music and performers were excellent. There was some cool props they used (including a flying rig that brought the performers out over the crowd) but the rest of the set and the story-line was mediocre.

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Monday, May 18, 2009 10:51 PM

Then let me rephrase... why aren't they selling Nemo CD's at the exits? They don't do a very good job of making it obvious that the recorded music is available.

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Monday, May 18, 2009 11:46 PM

Same thing with the Festival of the Lion King. They have a sound track for that as well.. But you have to hunt around the CD section of the gift shops for that too.. (to which I bought and absolutely love playing.)

I think it would benefit them more to put it near the attraction.. Cirque does it, Blue Man (another of my favorite) does it. I always see people lined up right after they get out with dollars in hand..

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:44 AM

Funny, those were the two examples I was going to bring up!

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:07 AM

Got me. The exits from most attractions run you through mandatory gift shops. I don't know why this one doesn't.

Now that I think about it, most of the "shows" don't do this, but most of the "rides" do...maybe a guest flow issue?

Last edited by Brian Noble, Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:08 AM
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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:03 AM

Perhaps unloading a thousand people through a gift shop at once is not ideal. Although they do it at Universal.

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:17 AM

Jeff said:
Then let me rephrase... why aren't they selling Nemo CD's at the exits? They don't do a very good job of making it obvious that the recorded music is available.

They do around the park and at the exits, also at the DTD World of Disney store with all the park music and other things. I think they even sell it at Epcot in Mousegear, not sure though...

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:23 AM

I didn't see any music at all at Mousegear, or the Downtown store for that matter (and I spent a lot of time at both while Diana looked for the "perfect" bag). I still think they'd sell a metric assload if they had a cart or something just outside the exits. See Universal's carts outside the Blue Man Group venue in Orlando, for example.

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:45 AM

Jeff said:
I didn't see any music at all at Mousegear, or the Downtown store for that matter (and I spent a lot of time at both while Diana looked for the "perfect" bag). I still think they'd sell a metric assload if they had a cart or something just outside the exits. See Universal's carts outside the Blue Man Group venue in Orlando, for example.

Really? Last time I was at World of Disney it was near the DVD's/Books and there was a stand outside of Nemo or at least close to it. Odd, maybe they've changed the layout, but I'll know for sure in July!

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:39 PM

That place was a zoo. I was probably not looking very hard. I just wanted to get the hell out of there!

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:23 PM

Jeff said:
That place was a zoo. I was probably not looking very hard. I just wanted to get the hell out of there!

And they say per capita spending is down! Psha!

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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:52 PM

Jeff, In regards to Six Flags and 'company picnics' -- when I have gone to corporate events at SFGAm, we have never utilized the picnic pavillions - the company usually gave out "Bugs Bunny Bucks" along with every ticket for people to buy their own food.

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Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:46 AM

They did catering for the two events we had there, but I don't know if an enthusiast buffet counts as "company picnic" business. :)

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Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:25 PM

They still do some catering (especially for smaller groups) but for large companies, the logistics are insane, plus the fact of having a space big enough to hold all the people is what drives the Bugs Bucks...

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Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:50 PM

That seems like such a missed opportunity. Kings Island, Cedar Point and Hershey (spread out) have a ton of catering space.

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Sunday, May 24, 2009 11:49 AM

Re: Music/DVDs

At World Of Disney (downtown), its near the Pins Section before you go in.. Not an extremely large area, but its there.. But all it takes is 3 people in front to obstruct it.

At Mousegears its located near the scrapbook section (wife drags me in that area and I slowly drift out). Again, not a large section.

The bigger area is in Once Upon a Toy in the back.. They have lots of DVDs and Music CDs there.

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