CoasterBuzz Podcast #103 posted

Posted Monday, January 28, 2008 6:50 PM | Contributed by Jeff

Jeff, Pat and Mike review this week's news in the amusement industry.

  • Dreamworks latest to want to build in Dubai. Do their properties really translate culturally?
  • Lo-Q coming to more Six Flags parks. Mike says that tolerance for up-charge queues is high because it has been around for awhile at these parks.
  • Off-seasons are weird in Orlando, but obviously when the kids are out of school. Tourism down there sure made a nice recovery since 9/11, especially with foreign tourists given the weak dollar.
  • Darien Lake announces motor bike style coaster, the first big ride since Six Flags sold the park. Jeff's not fond of the biker position.
  • Casino tangent, and how non-Vegas casinos generally suck.
  • Cedar Fair distribution still going strong. Jeff still doesn't understand why they're buying a big coaster for Canada's Wonderland, but maybe because he's grumpy about the lack of human resource retention company wide.
  • Santa Clara is crazy for football and losing their minds. And oh yeah, they can't do anything without the blessing of Cedar Fair. They seem to keep overlooking that.
  • Georgia water crisis may close water rides at Six Flags Over Georgia.
  • New board member for Cedar Fair: Rubber stamper or management challenger?
  • We really need Rick on after the big results are released because we don't know what we're talking about.

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Monday, January 28, 2008 7:31 PM
Jason Hammond's avatar While Canada's Wonderland may only have a mediocre selection of Coasters, I feel, they have a great selection of flat rides. There are flats there that I've never seen anywhere else. And they have flats that I've only seen in one or 2 other places. I'd be interested to see the break down of Canadian to American park goers. Isn't this the biggest park in Canada? La Ronde is the next biggest and I havn't heard any good thinga about that park either. I'll reserve my judgement until I get there. (Might be this year.)

The drought in Georgia has been going on since last Summer. The las I heard from my Aunt who lives in Atlanta is that there is no watering of lawns, no filling or topping off of pools. They're asking people to limit themselves to (1) 5 minute shower per day. If conditions get worse, there could be mandatory restrictions. Then if you go over the limit, they'll see it in your water bill and you could be fined.*** This post was edited by Jason Hammond 1/28/2008 7:41:38 PM ***

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:52 AM
A couple of thoughts: On the issue of Orlando off-season. There is truth to the idea that the two weeks between Thanksgiving and Christmas are the best times to go. In fact, the bonus is the fact that the holiday decorations are up AND the crowd is minimal.

But, "minimal" these days isn't the off-season of old. With the growth of the Convention business there really isn't much of an off-season at Disney anymore. Universal does have more of an off-season because they don't have the sheer numbers of Convention attendees that Disney has.

When I was at Disney a couple of weeks ago it is safe to say I talked with more folks from overseas than from the United States. The US is an attractive destination right now.

Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:32 AM
You forgot about the Intamin Motorbike Coasters - Mick Doohan's Motocoaster is the first one. Having ridden two of the Vekoma models I've got to say they're pretty fun.
Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:27 AM
When I did CW on a quiet, cloudy day in September, the GP was aware of their coaster shortcomings. One gal was grouching about how 'lame' Tomb Raider was, another pair was mocking the wild mouse (while riding, of course)...while they show up and spend money, they're quite aware of what a world-beating, arse-kicking coaster looks like. And the fact that they don't have one...


Wednesday, January 30, 2008 3:31 AM
Alexx Argen's avatar I did Disney/Universal in early Jan last year and the lines we minimal to none at universal and very short at Disney. It was the time right after the christmas rush and Disney was closing the doors because they were at full capacity.
Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:14 PM
I don't think there is much competition in Canada. There are only 44 amusement parks. I was looking at all the Canada amusement parks on rcdb, and I would say that maybe only 4 of them have more than 7 coasters with Canada's Wonderland having the most. I would say most of them have 3-4, or 1 coaster at each park.

Why does Cedar Point add rides than? What's the point? If people come there anyway, don't put a roller coaster in for a very long time.

With litle competition, you can get a lot of people going to your park. Look at Disney. They don't have much competition in there "uniqueness" of rides. They are competing with Univesal. It's very hard to say that they are competing with Six Flags, Busch Gardens, and Cedar Fair. You can find a boomerang at a lot of parks. You can only find 2 Terror of Towers in the USA, along with two It's a Small World's, and so on.


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