Coaster that falls into a large hole in the ground

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:13 PM
Hey guys,

I found a web site on this cool new coaster that is small but has this large drop into this hole with fog. I think it is at Dorney but do not know for sure.The passengers sit 4 across on a one or two train car. Do you guy know what it might be?

Tuesday, February 13, 2001 10:15 PM
maybe if you posted the web site address,we could take a look at it.
Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:28 PM
Most likely it's Oblivion at Alton Towers
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:56 AM
Yea, I'm with Joe E. It's definitely Oblivion, cause Oblivion has 2 rows of cars per train and it drops into a hole.
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:09 AM
Oblivion sits six across, and isn't that new
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:48 AM
No, Oblivion is 8 across, and I call it pretty new. There is another one in Japan called G5, or something like that. Both are 8 across.

"X" marks the spot in 2001!
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:30 AM
I don't think G5 drops into a hole though does it Soggy?

Randy Hutchinson
You build it, I'll ride it...eventually
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:41 AM
When will we see a B&M dive machine in the U.S.? Oblivion looks like it'll be an intense ride.

Bill Yost a.k.a. THE BEASTmaster

Can you take me higher? (CREED)
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:30 AM
Actually, G5 is in Taiwan. There are only 2 B&M Dive Machines in existence.
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:04 AM
Which really makes me wonder, "Why?" I mean, sure, they seem awesome, but is there something behind the scenes that we don't know about? I think it might be the cost. I've heard just one train costs $300,000...

Matt Lynch
Co-Webmaster, Kennywood Boulevard
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:34 AM
I just wonder why no other park in the world has decided to build a vertical drop roller coaster.

The only out there is Alton Towers' Oblivion. That coaster looks like a decent 1st attempt, but is very small & I think it should have evolved since they put up the coaster a few years ago.

In other words, does anyone know if B&M will be building another one of these vertical drop coasters to a Paramount, Cedar Fair, or Six Flags park anytime soon?? I'm sure it'd gather much more attention if they brought it here & modified the coaster a little more like the ones you can build in RCT w/ an inversion or at least 2 vertical drops. Trains may be expensive, but I bet they can modify that too!
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:25 AM
Dawg Byte: Well, X will feature an 88.5 deg drop, and Hypersonic XLC and the Vekome Super Invertigos will go the full 90. I know you meant a B&M Diver but there will be plenty of coasters to "go vertical" in the US in 2001. Those B&M Divers need more elements than just the drop, the track length is only around 1250'. And I thought Phantom's Revenge looks short, sheesh!

RandyHutchinson Said:
"I don't think G5 drops into a hole though does it Soggy?"

I'm not sure. All I know for sure is that they are mirror image clones.
"X" marks the spot in 2001!
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:59 AM
I doubt we will see many more B&M dive machines, at least until they put some actual elements into them. I wonder how much could actually be done with them, considering how massive those trains are. But the fact of the matter is, if all they do is drop and nothing else, not many parks are gonna pay ALL that money for one. Think of it this way, the hypersonic is just as long and simple in layout, but at least there you get to experience going from 0-80 (or whatever it is), and the experience of a total vertical climb to the top of the hill, and all for a much lower price than a dive machine
Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:12 PM
I read that Giovanola is building a vertical drop coaster in South Africa. It will also dive into a hole. I am not 100% on this, but am pretty sure.
Thursday, February 15, 2001 2:34 PM

Dawg Byte said:
"I just wonder why no other park in the world has decided to build a vertical drop roller coaster.

The only out there is Alton Towers' Oblivion."

As was pointed out earlier, Oblivion is not the only B&M dive machine in the world. The other one, G5, opened last year at Janfusun Fancyworld in Taiwan. The layout is exactly like Oblivion, only it is mirrored. Also, it is built entirely above ground, it does not drop into a hole. Oblivion dives into the ground because of the height restriction that Alton Towers has to deal with.

As for other vertical coasters, don't forget the Intamin impulse models. They all feature a 90ยบ drop on their back spike. The Ultra Twisters all feature a near vertical drop, too. And sometime soon, a Vekoma tilt coaster is supposed to open at the brand new Discovery World park in Taiwan.
*** This post was edited by RagingBull on 2/15/2001. ***
Thursday, February 15, 2001 2:56 PM
Yes, Giovanola built a vertical coaster in South Africa. If I remember right, it does drop into a hole in the ground, and it seats 4 across, in 2 rows. I think it was themed to an oil well, or mine ride thing, but I'm not sure exactly about the theming.

That's probably the photo you saw, not Oblivion.
-Clarkbar *** This post was edited by Clarkbar on 2/15/2001. ***
Thursday, February 15, 2001 3:18 PM

I think it just depends on what the parks and public want. Lets face it there has to be a demand or intrest for a park to build it. I'm sure B&M could add any elements a park wanted to it for the right price.

Hopefully they will catch on. Just think stopping for a few seconds at the top of a 200 ft drop into a tunnel! Gives me the chills thinking about it. :) :)
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