Coaster Count Question

Monday, October 10, 2005 3:31 PM
Last Week I went to the Pitt County Fair in Greenville, NC. The carnival was by a company called Amusements of America. There was a coaster there that was simmilar to WildCat at Cedar Point call Avalanche. What I am curious about is if anyone else here counts carnival coasters on their count or not, so I know if I should or not.

25 Parks..............
123 Coasters........
....and still going!

Imagine the Crystal Beach Cyclone with a Gerstlauer train

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Monday, October 10, 2005 3:38 PM
I think the general consensus is to count large identifiable coasters, but not little Kiddie rides such as Dragon Wagons, because there's so many of the smaller coasters that you might ride one more than once and not notice.

Go ahead and count it.


Chattanooga needs a [B][I]ITG2[/I][/B] Machine!
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Monday, October 10, 2005 3:39 PM
I count carnival coasters.

I just simple don't ride the dragon wagon ones for that reason.


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Monday, October 10, 2005 4:48 PM
Count however you want to count, the only person that cares, is you.

Good to see the former Firecracker at Holiday World still thrilling people though. :)

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Monday, October 10, 2005 5:08 PM
I count carnival coasters- once each.

The AoA coaster is a Zyklon- it was once the Firecracker at Holiday World and it might have been at Geauga Lake, perhaps even Riverside, before that. AoA also has a Crazy Mouse- was that there?

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Monday, October 10, 2005 6:09 PM
They didn't have the crazy mouse, but they did have the earlier mentioned Dragon Wagon. The only one of these I have ridden is at the Puyallup Fair, and I counted that since all of the rides at the fair seem to be permanant fixtures to the fair (although I assume that some of the rides are temporary models of their ride).

I never would have guessed that was the old Firecracker from Holiday World, and I was trying to figure out who built it.

It was actually a fun coaster, what I could not get over about it was that it had magnetic breaks at the end and before the last drop before the final turnaround.


25 Parks..............
123 Coasters........
....and still going!

Imagine the Crystal Beach Cyclone with a Gerstlauer train

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Monday, October 10, 2005 9:25 PM
Jason Hammond's avatar I don't count carni-coasters.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 9:36 PM
How about you go outside and count trees that have changed colors?

Or how many hours you can go without thinking about a roller coaster (ok, so maybe minutes is more realistic ... )


Brett, Resident Launch Whore Anti-Enthusiast (the undiplomatic one)
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Monday, October 10, 2005 10:09 PM
Mamoosh's avatar I count carnival coasters by type once because I'm never sure if I'm riding the same one twice at different fairs. So I have one travelling Hi-Miler in my count, one travelling Crazy Mouse, one standard mouse, etc.

But if and how you count is up to you.

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Monday, October 10, 2005 10:11 PM
Acoustic Viscosity's avatar Count however you want. Just don't count relocated rides twice. Das ist forboten!! ;)
Personally, I try to stay clear of any "gray areas" such as counting racers/duelers as two. I think of my track record as "what I've ridden" not "how much I've ridden." It's nice to have the big numbers to impress non-enthusiasts, but when talking within the enthusiast community, it's more about having a common frame of reference so we can relate to each other's reviews and share opinions about the same coasters.

AV Matt
Long live the Big Bad Wolf

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:44 AM
ApolloAndy's avatar I count carnival coasters as 0.6 rides, duelers/racers as 1.71 and Intamins as 0.8 (I usually only make it about 80% through the course before I fly out of the train). I haven't counted S:TE yet because I keep getting rollbacks on it. Once I got evacuated from an MCBR, so I count that as 0.4. So my coaster count is -pi/root(e) + 3i.

Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 11:33 AM
To count avalanche from Amusements of America simply go to Holiday World and count Firecracker. Yes, It is that coaster!

Now I've ridden AoA's Spinny Mouse as well and still can't find it on some counters.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 11:36 AM
Wait, Avalanche now has magnetic brakes?

GOOD! Because me and my brother went blasting through the brakes like they weren't even there at Ohio State Fair, If not for quck action by ops grabbing the car, A rear ender was emminent!

All for saftey here! and thanks to the ops for being ON THE BALL that time!

Chuck, who doesn't wonder anymore why they don't run it in a drizzle.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 11:42 AM
How many rollbacks before a ride on TTD or Kingda Krap equals a complete ride?
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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:14 PM
5.6 for TTD

5.1 for KK


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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 3:26 PM

ApolloAndy said:
I count carnival coasters as 0.6 rides, duelers/racers as 1.71 and Intamins as 0.8 (I usually only make it about 80% through the course before I fly out of the train). I haven't counted S:TE yet because I keep getting rollbacks on it. Once I got evacuated from an MCBR, so I count that as 0.4. So my coaster count is -pi/root(e) + 3i.

Best . Post. in. this. thread . hahahaha Andy, your smart alekry never fails.


Fate is the path of least resistance.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 5:47 PM
Does anybody count a Super Loop as a coaster? I read somewhere that rides that are just a full circuit loop are not considered coasters.
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Tuesday, October 11, 2005 6:26 PM
Acoustic Viscosity's avatar Does a Super Loop even have wheels to coast on? I always thought it was attached to a rotating ring.

AV Matt
Long live the Big Bad Wolf

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Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:52 PM
Oh goodness, here we go again with this debate... he he. As for counting carnival coasters, the only ones I've been on are in fact at the aformentioned Puyallap Fair where a Schwarz Wildcat lives all year long (though only open for about 21 days a year) and a very nice Woodie lives - again all year long. The other rides that are "permenant" fixtures are a Miller Monster Mouse and a thing called "Kersplash".

Basically, if Duane has them on rcdb.com, then I count them once (and only once if they've been relocated). Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure the only non-kiddie relocated coaster I've been on (in both its locations) was the orignal Corkscrew that was relocated to Silverwood from KBF.

-Rob


"It's probably in my basement... let me go upstairs and check" -Escher
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Thursday, October 13, 2005 4:41 PM
There are wheels that run along the rotating ring on a Super Loop/Ring of Fire/Fire Ball. Is it a coaster? I doubt it. *** Edited 10/13/2005 8:43:05 PM UTC by Ben Nelson***

Schwarzkopf shuttle loops...The most possible fun in 36 seconds.

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