Child falls from kite flyer at fair

Posted Thursday, August 22, 2002 4:52 AM | Contributed by agd

A 2-year old fell from a California State Fair ride while a witness videotaped the accident. Officials say the height requirement was incorrectly marked, allowing the small boy to slide out.

Read more and see the video from KCRA/Sacramento.

Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:24 AM

Now there is a case for a lawsuit! If a parent fudges a child's height an inch to get them onto a ride, it is the parent's fault if the child gets hurt. But incorrectly listing a height requirement with a 6 inch difference!! That should never have happened.

Thank goodness the child wasn't more seriously injured

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Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:27 AM
Sad to see an accident like this happen but I am glad to see that the child wasn't seriously hurt

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Thursday, August 22, 2002 8:49 AM

It is probably a dumb question, but I will ask it anyway.

Does anyone know what type of ride this was? (Manufacturer or model name?)

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Thursday, August 22, 2002 8:55 AM
Zamperla Kite Flyer
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Thursday, August 22, 2002 8:59 AM
I just saw one of these rides for the first time a few weeks ago at a carnival. My daughter must have rode it like 5 times and enjoyed it. Of course she is well over the height requirements but I can see how a person can easily get out of the restraints and a 2 year old doesnt have the mental capability to stay in that position without knowing the consequences of trying to get out.

Personally I think its joint negligence on the parents and the carnival.

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Thursday, August 22, 2002 9:16 AM

I don't know if I'd really lay much of the blame on the parent, some yes, but not more on the fair. She trusted them to have the correct height requirements posted. Personally, I would have rode with my little ones at that age, but I don't trust a carny or a fair for that matter.

-Eric

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Thursday, August 22, 2002 9:36 AM

I rode one (with RideMan) and have to say that kid was way too small to be on there.

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Thursday, August 22, 2002 9:49 AM
i think its both as well, negligence on both the carnival and the parent
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Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:37 AM
If that lady is smart enough, then she has already contacted a lawyer and Zamperla about this incident. Her lawyer is going to get all the necessary information and they'll take that fair to court. I hope to see her get a lot of money from this.

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Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:45 AM

What's she going to sue for? Emotional distress?

I agree with Sara to a certain degree in that the parent needs to exercise a little judgement before letting the kid on the ride. If Dave and I could ride it and still have a fair bit of room to squirm around, you know a little kid will.

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Thursday, August 22, 2002 12:15 PM

Did the mom put the kid on the ride itself, what I mean is did she put him in the ride where she could see he was too small(she followed the height req outside the ride).

Also when the ride op checked the restraints didnt he notice the kid was too small, you would think that they would have noticed if the ride is as big as people say.

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Thursday, August 22, 2002 1:02 PM
It doesn't matter. The fair put out the sign that was wrong. They put people in danger by telling them that it was safe for children to ride that were under the 42" mark. Whether the misplaced sign was intentional or not, I encourage the family to sue the fair. They were neglegent, and someone got hurt. I really don't think that this is the parents fault. If an employee from Cedar Point told you Millennium Force could accomidate children under 48", then why would you have any reason to doubt that the employee is wrong? The average park goer has no idea how rides are designed to keep people in their restraints.

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Thursday, August 22, 2002 1:32 PM
Particularly since on the Kite Flyer, the restraints are, if I remember correctly, single-closed-position, and really are unnecessary for the safe operation of the ride. That is, the "seat" mold should be enough to restrain the rider against ride forces; the cage is there to keep the rider from jumping off. And if the rider is small enough to fit through the openings, well, what are you gonna do?

Chalk this one up to rider (mis)behavior, probably related to rider (im)maturity.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:03 PM
he was two years old though. Most of them that age don't know how to wipe their own ass!

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Thursday, August 22, 2002 7:02 PM

Speak for yourself...

I agree that ultimately the operator is at fault for not showing the correct height requirement. Zamperla certainly isn't at fault.

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Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:27 PM
I bet enchanted village is happy that this is one of their new rides! lol
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Friday, August 23, 2002 8:32 AM
Wow, I was on this exact same ride (run by Ray Cammack Shows) at our local fair a couple of weeks ago with my 7 year old daughter. And it had the 42 inch sign on it then (we know cause my son was not quite tall enough to ride). I wonder why the got the wrong sign on there this time. So yes, Cammack Shows definately made a mistake there.

However, I can't understand why any sane parent would put a 2 year old on a ride like this, especially seeing as it's impossible for an adult to help to hold on to them, or for a kid that young to really have a clue to hold on right, let alone the ability to do it.

In my mind, yes the show blundered big time on not having the right sign on there, and not training their op better. But the parent is also majorly at fault for putting their baby (and yes, 2 years old is still a baby) on what is obviously not a little kiddie ride. I mean hello! Get a clue!

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Friday, August 23, 2002 7:36 PM

they probably saw a lot of other kids going on the ride, and only kids, because thats what i have seen mainly going on kite flyers, very few adults, and just assumed it was a kiddie ride, then saw the height requirement and figured it was ok for the kid to go on, of course i do not think the parent exactly has the best judgement for putting the kid on this ride when he was only 2, if a lot of other young kids were also going on this ride, which i suspect because of the misplaced height sign, then it would have been the obvious choice for the parent if her son wanted to ride

also, shouldnt the op know that the height requirement for this ride was 42 inches and if it was a misplaced sign, im sure the op would have noticed it pretty soon if a lot of little kids kept trying to get on the ride, and the parents pointed out the sign saying it said you only have to be 36inches, sounds like the op wasnt trained very well or has never operated a kite flyer before

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Sunday, August 25, 2002 3:58 PM
My opinion is that the carnival is responsible, it is gross negligence. Granted the parent is an idiot, and thank goodness the boy was not seriously injured. (I'm sure he's gotten worse riding his bigwheel into a wall, 2 year olds are like that!) And if you see the video, the STUPID ride operator made the fall worse than it should have. But when it comes to the end, it's not worth a lot of money. If anything, the medical expenses, IF ANY, plus maybe $10k would be fair to the kid, and then fine the HELL out of the carnival company so it won't happen again.
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