Chang and Mantis

Saturday, December 29, 2001 10:16 AM
Since they are pretty much the same coaster, just mirror images, how are they aging?  I heard that Mantis is rough, and I know it needs a new coat of paint, but how is Chang doing? 
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Saturday, December 29, 2001 10:21 AM
Chang? where's that located?

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Saturday, December 29, 2001 10:22 AM
It's at SFKK.
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Saturday, December 29, 2001 10:55 AM
Mantis isn't rough. That's just my opinion though. I thought Mantis was smooth.
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Saturday, December 29, 2001 11:33 AM
When I rode it this past summer, I found it very rough. My head felt like jello when I got off. Overall, I do like the coaster a lot, but something has made it kind of rough. I also hope that it gets painted soon. The little run right after the diving loop (into the turn around above the station) is almost faded white! It would look wonderful when restored back to it's normal colors.

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Saturday, December 29, 2001 11:38 AM
According to RCDB, Chang is taller than Mantis by 9 feet, longer by 255 feet, and includes a second corkscrew.  The first half of the layout seems to be a mirror-image of Mantis, sans the height difference, but what goes on after the midcourse brakes is completely different.  Of course, I haven't ridden Chang, so I wouldn't be able to compare them at all..so why am I responding to this?:)

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Saturday, December 29, 2001 12:09 PM
Because you like to cause trouble??;)  LOL... I like both coasters.  Smooth as a baby's bum to me.  Guess I got 'em on a good day.
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Saturday, December 29, 2001 1:10 PM
Same here. Both seemed great to me. I couldn't tell much of a difference between the two.
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Saturday, December 29, 2001 1:31 PM
What I wanna know is when were you touching a baby's butt?! ;)
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Saturday, December 29, 2001 2:20 PM
I like Chang better than Mantis with the trim on but Mantis better when it's running sans the brake. I don't think either of them are particularly rough (especially when you compare say Chang with T2!) though Chang does have a bit more wobble IMO.

In general I'd say the back half of Chang is better than the back half of Mantis but the slightly tighter layout of the Bug throughout makes it better at top speed, where it's one of the more intense Beemers around.

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Saturday, December 29, 2001 2:29 PM

B&M-TYCOON said:
What I wanna know is when were you touching a baby's butt?!

Hey man, I got 3 kids.  Now....I don't do that anymore (my son is 12, after all), but I have the experience.
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This is smooth too!

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Saturday, December 29, 2001 3:20 PM
I'm curious...  Does Chang have the same trims on the first drop as Mantis?  Usually I'm not one to mind trims, hell, I usually don't even notice them!  However on that drop, just as you are beggining to float out of your harness from the airtime, the trims kick in and you're sucked back to reality.  It a shame they're so neccesary.

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Saturday, December 29, 2001 3:29 PM
I worked at Cedar Point this summer, and was one of the workers on Mantis.  It is fun running an 11 miilion dollar rollercoaster.  In fact I can verify that since 1996 the coaster has not aged well, it is rough and bumpy and very hard on the neck.  It was a great way to wake me up in the mornin, but I would pay for it the rest of the day during work. 
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Saturday, December 29, 2001 4:04 PM
Always the troublemaker...when I first rode Mantis a couple years ago, I thought it was the best stand-up ever.  This year my rides on both coasters seemed pretty rough, but that's me.  I'll take the newer models of RRv or Ga Scorcher, they are really glass-smooth.  It's my opinion that stand-ups don't age as well as the inverteds or sit-downs (and that floorless is basically the same as sit-downs, save for the front row, and a little more open).
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Saturday, December 29, 2001 4:16 PM
I think Mantis is a little rough........the day I rode it my neck was out but with all the jolts.......by the time the ride was over it was back in ........thanks mantis........hahaha!  Anyway would love to see a new fresh coat of paint on it though.
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Saturday, December 29, 2001 4:20 PM
I've yet to hear anything official about a Mantis paint job, but I sure hope it gets one too.  In October I rode Mantis without the trims, and man, that first half was much smoother.  I really wish those evil trims weren't there, but hey, that's life.  Problem is, the block brake slowed it down so much, it was crawling through the second half.
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Saturday, December 29, 2001 4:40 PM
I don't understand where people are getting this roughness from on Mantis...when I rode it(in 2000), it was smooth as any other B&M I've ridden.  I say the same regarding Chang, both smooth as glass.  I prefer Mantis though...it seems a bit more on the intense side.
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Saturday, December 29, 2001 4:54 PM
I like Chang much more then Mantis, the last half is a lot more enjoyable to me.
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Saturday, December 29, 2001 5:55 PM
I personally thought that Mantis was rough as well as Chang.  It is almost inevitable that the rides will get rough, even for all the people who praise B&M.  Arrow's ended up rough, Intamin's have been rough, and so have B&M.  It is really hard to say that just because it is a B&M it will not be rough.  They all age, I guess some faster thank others?
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Saturday, December 29, 2001 6:23 PM
I rode both in 1999 and I don't recall either one as being especially rough.  Certainly both parks have far rougher coasters.  I slightly preferred Mantis, but it wasn't a real big difference.
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