Cedar Point's VertiGo suffers partial collapse

If a VertiGo tower falls @ Cedar Point & no ones around to hear it, does it make a sound ???  *** This post was edited by CedarPoint1 on 1/18/2002. ***

I think you mean....that if a tower on VertiGo falls and no one is around, does it make any noise.

This is quite sad that we are resorting to old school sayings. :-P

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Well, while I was there (the day before Vertigo opened) I saw a man talking to a group of presumably important people, and his shirt said United Riggors And Erectors....  Could this be the subcontracted company?
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gotta wonder if the tower fell on the booth selling the tickets for VertiGo, does that mean that God is against the concept of upcharge attractions?  I know I've never liked the idea myself....
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FCR:

Sounds like United Riggers would have been the outfit that erected the ride not the fabricator.  Probably United is a local Ohio contractor hired for the installation.

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If a VertiGo tower falls @ Cedar Point & no ones around to hear it, does it really fall ???

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The answer: Of Course!

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....that if a tower on VertiGo falls and no one is around, does it make any noise.

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The answer: Yes

Now, if someone would say, "If a VertiGo tower @ Cedar Point falls and nobody is there to hear it, does it really make a sound?" Then the answer is NO. It does make a noise however, because noise is caused by vibrations in the air. Sound is your brain's interpretation of that noise. So if there is no one around to hear it, it doesn't make a sound.

*** This post was edited by CPgenius on 1/17/2002. ***

Smart***.  :-D  But yes you are right it would not make a sound.

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Statement from S&S over at Screamscape.  A crack was in it and since it is the off season it wasn't check so it got bigger until it fell. 

That is a wonderful reason.  But I read in a article that they did maintence on the rides even in the off season.  Know if this is true wouldn't they have noticed a crack in a peice of metal.  I am not a metal worker, but a crack in metal is not normal.  No I contacted my common sense and its not right.  I could nto quote the sandusky register somethign about a gateway timeout.  Or I would have my statments backed up.

Yes, they do maintenance all winter long, but not constantly on every ride. Bottom line is that the ride would have undergone the right testing before it opened in the spring, and wouldn't have opened with any kind of crack.

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Actually, Vernon, cracks in steel parts are not as uncommon as you might think. After all, that's why parks dismantle their coaster trains every so often and perform non-destructive tests (NDT)...they are looking for stress fractures, better known as "cracks" in the steel. Cracks generally aren't good, and if one forms it should be fixed. But crack formation happens all the time.

Now, one of the problems with most NDT techniques is that it simply isn't practical to apply the NDT procedure to the entire ride. That's the bad news. The good news is that it is possible to predict with some accuracy where cracks are likely to form, so NDT procedures can be developed to monitor those areas where cracks are likely to develop.

When cracks form it often means time to reinforce the part that is cracking in order to prevent recurrance. Getting back to these towers, it will be interesting to see if S&S feels that the break indicates that any reinforcement to the towers will be necessary.

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Read the report in Screamscape and it really doesn't say anything much about the root cause.  It does seem to indicate that the failure initiated with a crack rather than being a pure buckling type failure.  This had already seemed likely from the photos since the part that fell had completely separated from the remaining stub.

More likly the weather did probably the wind and rain water from lake Erie it probably got into the pipes and when it got cold the water turned to ice and expanded and snaped the polls like tooth picks. At least that is what I think happed.at least I think it is a good reason. 

*** This post was edited by Jonathan Locke on 1/22/2002. *** *** This post was edited by Jonathan Locke on 1/22/2002. ***