Cedar Point Operations

I just remember being scolded on Mystery Mine this year for trying to put my own camera on the shelf. The attendant made me sit down and hand my items to her.

Should be interesting for me. Our first CF trip will be to Dorney next month. I bought Maxx Passes online for the four of us and will redeem them there. I plan on hitting GL and CP a few times for the last 3 months of the operationg season, it's gonna be strange having to go to guest relations a multitude of times to enter the parks.

Tom

*** Edited 6/13/2007 1:23:30 PM UTC by LdScotsman***

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Lord Gonchar said:As far as I can tell, if you're using a CF pass from another park: -At the former Paramount parks the passes scan at the gate. -At the longtime CF parks it's the ol' Guest Relations routine.

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Here's hoping that *eventually* (whenever that is, LOL) that CF will recognize the superiority of the PP system and adopt it chain-wide.

I will say that at CF, WoF and Dorney that the process of signing in was painless and took no more than a minute or two. Knott's, on the other hand... :(

Funny the chain that brought us Millennium Force isn't quite living in the current millennium.

One of the folks at CP Guest Services told me they hoped to be scanning the Maxx passes later this year, as she was stamping my wrist after I signed paper (gasp) with an ink pen (oh the horror).

I think that realization was already made, and that in the complete integration simply isn't done yet. It's my understanding that the PP system will essentially give you a snapshot at any given moment of how you're doing in terms of attendance, and that's the kind of data that allows you to react quickly through the course of the year. That's something you could sell Kinzel on as being worth the expense I'm sure.

As far as the seatbelt rule on Corkscrew, I believe arrow mandated it or something, CF didn't just think "Hmm... How am I going to piss off the enthusiasses today? OH! I know let's add seatbelts on Corkscrew!" I know that Double Loop, Corkscrew, & Vortex all have seatbelts (granted I think Vortex had seatbelts before this year.

Why would Arrow mandate it on certain coasters and not others? There are plenty that work just fine at other chains without them.

And Arrow was long gone when the seat-belts were added in '05.

Most people seem to think these practices are due to the possibility of the park being sued, and I understand why the park takes the time and effort to prevent any legal action, but how much weight do the numerous sign around the park indicating that the park will not be held responsible for lost/stolen items hold in court? As long as the park isn't negligent, shouldn't these notices be sufficient, provided that guest ignorance is not an excuse for legal action?

Viper at Darien Lake dosnt have seatbelts.

^Dragon Fire and Vortex got seatbelts this year at CW....it sounds more like a CF thing that an Arrow/S&S thing

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Alexx Argen said:Viper at Darien Lake dosnt have seatbelts.

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Given the above statement, it sure LOOKS like the seatbelts are "per CF".

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CoasterKrazy said:
As long as the park isn't negligent, shouldn't these notices be sufficient, provided that guest ignorance is not an excuse for legal action?

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It's not really about getting sued. I mean it is to some extent, but when you have ride attendants taking bags for people and then said packages getting stolen or otherwise messed up, you get a load of hassle. Patrons could accuse the park of wrong doing, they could accuse the specific ride attendant (the one who is 16 years old and making $7.15 an hour) of wrong doing, making a stink with the ride op, then the area team lead, then an area supervisor, then someone at customer service, or higher, etc.

I totally applaud the parks that will still do that sort of thing for guests but I think having your kids not handle bags is totally more than reasonable. Their jobs are hard enough as it is, dealing with that sort of thing just makes things even more a hassle.

This is just what I heard no real proof that that's what happened.

in my opinion if they put a seat belt on a ride and it makes a bunch of people feel "more safe" im fine with that. parks arent out to piss off coaster freaks they just want happy "normal people" and whats the problem with that. its not hurting us, mybee it takes an extra fiew seconds to get on the ride but whats the big deal.

coaster enthusiasts are arrogant

The ride operators should be focused on getting people secured into their restraints and not on making sure guests crap gets into a bin.

Thats one thing that annoys me at BGE, the ride ops get hung up with everyone throwing thei sandles or hats at them that they can't do their jobs.

I wish CP and other large parks would offer free 2 hour lockers outside every ride that enforces a no carry on rule. That way both parties are happy.

I still think the best operation in this regards was KD on Volcano. When I visited, one employee pushed a cart along right in front of the loading queue. Everyone put their loose items in the cart. At the end of the ride, you simply went to the cart and picked them back up. Of course, this only works if you have a separate loading and unloading station, but overall, it didn't seem to delay the ride at all nor did it inconvenience the ride ops checking restraints.