Cedar Point continues to build bigger and faster to meet expectations

Posted Tuesday, September 2, 2003 4:46 AM | Contributed by supermandl34

After winning Amusement Today's Golden Ticket Award for best park for the sixth straight year, Cedar Fair CEO Dick Kinzel says they continue to build huge rides because it's what the public expects.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2003 5:09 AM
I Think a TTD size ride is out of the question, they just started clearing land a year ago right now. This fact doesn't suprise. At least CP has a reason to build like this, SFMM just does it out of fun I guess. They do not seem to be getting any big records/awards for their work.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2003 5:34 AM
Well in this case, size doesn't matter, reliability does.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2003 5:53 AM
Not too long ago i heard ar umor about Cedar Point is going to build a 622ft coaster within the next few years. Im not saying this is true but if you have heard anything on it let me know.
Tuesday, September 2, 2003 6:11 AM
Yeah, I think the lemon chill guy told me that. Or maybe it was the dippin' dots person. Oh that's right! It was my friend's sister's boyfriend's uncle's 3rd cousin twice removed's aquaintance from Turkey... ;)

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Tuesday, September 2, 2003 8:13 AM
CP needs to do something to get our annual rumor machine started for the off season. I just think it is amazing that Dick is still thinking about building huge rides even after TTD. It should be interesting to see what he builds before he retires.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2003 8:34 AM
Im glad to hear that a Chairman and his company aims to please. Too many times in this industry, companies do things for the sake of profit and convenience. You will probably find those companies losing lots and lots of money, while Cedar Fair continues to rake it in despite a lousy economy, less than favorable weather, and a new ride that has performed inconsistently all year (which managed to rank just out of the top ten despite its problems).

As for the rumors....where do you people come up with these things?? 622 ft??? I wouldn't expect a ride of that size for quite a while simply because there are other types of coasters that CP is planning to build. The floorless coaster rumor seems to be the front runner, although CP will not be building anything like that next year. They will be smart by getting TTD running flawlessly, building more hotel rooms, and also start construction on the indoor water park at the Radisson. I would expect another coaster for 2005, probably around the location of the Demon Drop.

Tuesday, September 2, 2003 9:10 AM

I Think a TTD size ride is out of the question, they just started clearing land a year ago right now.

Actually.. the very first signs of the massive TTD project showed up in 2001.. If you knew where to look... ;)

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Tuesday, September 2, 2003 9:59 AM
ApolloAndy's avatar D the Great -
If you think CP is in it for anything other than profit, don't consider a career in business. CP is in it for the money just like any other company. Their approach to getting the money (pleasing customers with an all around enjoyable park experience) is different than Six Flags' (build new high tech thrill rides), but both parks care about one thing and one thing only: their profits.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2003 12:47 PM
Red Garter Bob,
What do you mean by knowing where to look, hmmmmmm? :-)
The ting the park lacks is a good looping coaster. Corkscrew deosnt cut it. It 80 somehting feet tall, very short, and has three inversions. They neED B&M Floorless.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2003 12:53 PM
SFGAMan, where'd that Dodgem's back there go? ;)

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Tuesday, September 2, 2003 1:16 PM
Soggy's avatar Corkscrew may be outdated, but Raptor and Mantis surely qualify as modern looping coasters. While they are Inverted and Standup, inversions are the main elements in both of those rides. Also, Corkscrew fills a much needed role in the CP coaster lineup, a smaller looper for those who are still working up the nerve for the big rides. That being said, I think a floorless would be a great addition to the park.

As for bigger, taller, faster rides, shouldn't CP at least wait for another park to beat TTD's records before they grab that record again? Personally, I think a medium sized woodie with great airtime is the biggest hole in the CP lineup. Sadly, they will never biuld one of those. At least not as long as they are looking for record breakers from now on. Sigh.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2003 3:36 PM
Why don't they build something big and fast at MIA.:)
Tuesday, September 2, 2003 3:37 PM
How about installing a record number of new flat rides. They sure could use a few good ones.

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Tuesday, September 2, 2003 3:51 PM
Dragster said:

Not too long ago i heard ar umor about Cedar Point is going to build a 622ft coaster within the next few years. Im not saying this is true but if you have heard anything on it let me know.

Dragster, I thought i cleared this up last time you asked about it. They are building a 622 foot inverted Dive machine. 22 and a half inversions will make this the tallest fastest craziest ride ever. Everyone hurry and get your season passes to the point for 2004.


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Tuesday, September 2, 2003 6:08 PM
I would really like to see a Wooden Rollercoaster pop up somewhere. Cedar Point needs some more wood, seeing as how it only has 1 real one. The Gemini, is considered a Steel/Wooden to many people. But the thing I want to see is a good rollercoaster. One that is not really based on breaking records but giving the ultimate thrill experience. Using the element of surprise, speed, and hills. So many rollercoaster have about 3 to 4 good airtime hills on it. Prime example, even though I love Millennium Force with all my heart, all the ride is is one big intense hill and then two other hills and that's it. Most rides that have inversions are basically just inversions. They have no hills, no nothing just different types of inversion throughout the whole entire ride. So if Cedar Point can bring me a classic all around FUN rollercoaster (not saying their previous ones aren't) then i'll be extremly happy.
Tuesday, September 2, 2003 6:46 PM
If CP does build another record breaker to be bigger than TTD, I wonder what company would get the call to construct it?

Intamin has became the front runner for CP with MF and TTD, but will they contract Intamin to break the 500 foot mark?

Does another company have the technology to raise to that level?

Tuesday, September 2, 2003 7:07 PM
Im sure lots of companies do if the price is right...... But cedar point will do it as cheaply as they can.
Wednesday, September 3, 2003 8:02 AM
I havent heard anything about a 622 ft coaster as I'm sure they are false. However the rumors I have heard that seem the most likely are as follows: For 2004 a new kiddie playland area with probably a small kiddie coaster as Cedar Point is still a Family park. Then in 2005 they would be getting a flying coaster. i havent heard anything about a Floorless coaster but this rumor seems the most likely as they don't have anything close to a flyer. I'm sure that Cedar Point will build taller and faster than the Dragster but I'm sure like someone said they would wait till the Dragster was topped. Aside from that rumors are flying around about an S&S 500 ft. project at Blackpool Pleasure Beach. Anyways that's my 2 cents.


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Wednesday, September 3, 2003 8:07 AM
Oh come on .. This is the biggest "crock-o-shtimpy" I've read on the internet in years! Cedar Point completely jumped the shark when they installed Millennium Force; and Twister and Dragster are just more nails in the Cedar Point coffin. All Cedar Fair cares about is profit, probably more-so than Six Flags .. they just have a better marketing company.

If you'd all stop running around and waving your Cedar Fair flags like a bunch of lobotomized monkeys, you'd see this too. The park cares about nothing more than being able to walk up to any urinal in the world, unzip, and have the biggest 'wang' there (nothing illustrates this better than Dragster). Cedar Point builds these stupid, massive rides .. and then they just let them rot. Look at Mean Streak, Raptor, Mantis, and Magnum .. all are getting worse every year. I rode Mean Streak in June this year, and my back is still giving me problems .. This is not a company that cares about anything other than profit!

Shivering Timbers was just horrible this June, not surprising considering who now owns the park. Ghostrider (which was awesome after it opened) is now also (apparently) a big pile of poo.

I really can't fathom how you can all be so orgasmic about Cedar Fair, while despising Six Flags so much .. They're both just as atrociously greedy, uncreative, and corporate as each other.

Any company which blindly focuses on "tallest and fastest" instead of "best", has some serious problems. It's just a shame that all the little lemmings continue to flock there year after year ... madly lapping up all the sputum which the Cedar Fair marketing machine coughs up.


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