Cedar Fair wants compensation, scheduling control of stadium, if 49ers build in Santa Clara

Posted Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:14 AM | Contributed by Jason Hammond

There was plenty of conflicting math last week as Santa Clara completed its review of a stadium project proposed by the 49ers. Cedar Fair, which would close Great America on the four days a year when the 49ers were playing a regular season home game during the park's season, wants "unilateral" control over stadium scheduling, to be reimbursed for lost revenue and to receive a cut of stadium parking revenue.

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Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:22 AM
Are the 49ers going to play games in 2 stadiums as there are 8 home games a year? Or does the park close for the winter, being in Ca I assumed a longer season...
Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:02 PM
Not really. Next year, CGA opens on the weekends beginning March 13, and continues until November 2. That only runs to about the midpoint of the NFL's season, so hence four games (out of eight home).
Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:21 PM
I think the 49ers should have to go marathon Grizzly after each home loss so they play better.
Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:15 PM
This doesn't sound like a company looking to unload the park. Quite the opposite actually.
Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:35 PM
There still people who go to 49ers games?
Friday, December 28, 2007 4:30 AM
It is 10 games a year.

8 regular season games & 2 preseason games (that season ticket holders are required to purchase.

Plus any other events that can take plave such as college football games, soccar games, concerts etc.

Friday, December 28, 2007 4:54 AM
They haven´t had any decent hits after "Touch me" and "Don´t you love me". But those two were great!
Saturday, December 29, 2007 12:24 AM
The big point mentioned is the 9.5% hotel tax going to 11.5%. 8 hotels cannot support this size of a project.

On a lighter note, if the 49ers, who basically stink now, want to build it 'there', the NFL will begin the push. The NFL has a hell of a lot more clout than Cedar Fair.

Lastly, Cedar Fair has zero business asking for parking loot, loss of revenue dollars, etc. If they cannot maintain animals in Ohio, forget even micro-manging a professional sports operation.

Hershey Entertainment owns an IHL hockey team, yet they only own 7-8 player contracts. There is not much communication between the Bears and Hersheypark!, let alone scheduling demands, parking access,etc. Its a big hands off to those not involved.

Great America probably will blow this, being part of a team. God-forbid you take advantage of the 'complex team' being proposed here, with same day festival events in the parking lots, player appearances in the park, and on and on.

Cedar Fair needs to focus on adding foodservice operations, removing the Pepsi cheapo fast food signs, adding dark rides, fun houses, classic flats, and just plain convincing the overwhelming weekenders to visit mid-week. Leave the 49ers to the NFL.

Cedar Fair does not know it all.

Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:49 AM
Jeff's avatar What does asking for money have to do with animals? There's no connection there. They're doing exactly what I think they should be doing in this situation. They have the contract and the power, they want to not only prevent their business from being harmed, but profit additionally. Makes total sense.
Saturday, December 29, 2007 1:09 PM
rollergator's avatar Cedar Fair is going to do everything in its power to drive the very hardest bargain imaginable. In every instance. I'd expect nothing less if I were a unit-holder.

The NFL has infinitely more clout and leverage in total (obviously, LOL), but in negotiating with the city, they are more on an equal footing. If the city were forced to back on or the other, they'd sell PGA down the river.....oh, but there's that pesky contract. ;)

I've said mnay times how this park was the weak sister of the Paramount properties. But in CF terms, the park is a valuable commodity - and that lease gives them a bargaining chip they'll use to make Santa Clara and the NFL pay, and pay dearly, to get CF to close.

Not that CF thought as highly of the park BEFORE the NFL began expressing interest in that location... ;)

Saturday, December 29, 2007 2:16 PM
CF has a lot to gain here with the current proposal. Generating income on days the park will be closed so there is no overhead is a great way to make extra cash.
Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:23 PM
Cedar Fair is doing the right thing here. But ultimately, I think they'd be VERY willing to sell away the park - as long as it comes at the right price - a price that would allow them to cut into their debt significantly.

I fear this is also a situation where even though they are totally in the right and don't want their business to be harmed, they might be perceived negatively by the public. Afterall, people like their football.

Sunday, December 30, 2007 1:15 AM
Mamoosh's avatar What does asking for money have to do with animals?

Isn't it obvious, Jeff? If they can't maintain animals, they can't maintain cars! ;)

Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:16 PM
I'm sure it would be complicated but if I were CF, I would sell the Great America land (or the lease for it I guess) while maintaining most of the ride assets. Then buy Gilroy Gardens and relocate Great America's worthy attractions there. Then Gilroy Gardens could be the main property for CF in the area.
Monday, December 31, 2007 10:46 AM
Jeff's avatar That doesn't make sense. They're leasing the land now.
Monday, December 31, 2007 1:29 PM
rollergator's avatar To say nothing of the fact that GG is in a much more remote location and has nowhere NEAR the infrastructure to handle a very large number of guests even IF they could find the place...beautiful place, as a smaller park.
Friday, January 4, 2008 12:30 PM
This reminds me too much of AstroWorld vs Texans.

Goodbye Great America, I hope I get to visit you before they shut the doors like they did in Aurora. Guess I should have made that side trip after Santa Cruz


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