Cedar Fair sues Santa Clara again over 49ers stadium proposal

Posted Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:27 PM | Contributed by Jeff

Cedar Fair, owner of Great America, sued the city of Santa Clara Monday -- the second time in five months -- alleging the environmental review for the $937 million project doesn't meet state standards, including failing to address a lack of parking for roughly 17,000 of 20,000 cars expected on game days.

Read more from SFGate.com.

Tuesday, April 13, 2010 1:05 PM

Could you imagine tailgaating in a parking garage? Do any NFL stadiums feature parking structures?

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Tuesday, April 13, 2010 1:14 PM

The parking around Qwest Field looks like it's about half parking garages.

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Tuesday, April 13, 2010 1:18 PM

Ford Field in Detroit has parking structures, though there are a number of small lots scattered throughout downtown, where tailgating is as prevalent as ever (actually, more). I imagine that other modern stadiums require parking structures, since there simply isn't much available land in most major downtown areas.

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Tuesday, April 13, 2010 1:33 PM

Tailgating is prohibited in most parking structures I'm aware of - Could you imagine a fire in one? It would only take one tipped over hibachi on an oil stain or gas spill and a flammable Prius or Smart Car.

Concrete doesn't burn but Steel becomes brittle when heated.

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Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:41 PM

I've seen plenty of tailgating in parking structures before. The negative is the smoke from the BBQs. A parking structure in California is going to have a sprinkler system so a fire isn't going to be much of an issue. Also, oil and gas stains don't burn. You need a fresh spill.

I hope Cedar Fair wins this case. There is no need for this stadium.

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:35 PM

If they are required to have a sprinkler system won't it get set off by a BBQ? That does not seem desirable.

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:24 PM

From CF's perspective, I think getting the best price *and* getting out of PGA is the most desireable outcome. My belief is that they don't want that property at all, but have to pretend they do in order to achieve better results.

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:59 PM

egieszl said:
A parking structure in California is going to have a sprinkler system so a fire isn't going to be much of an issue.

Do you know that to be a fact? I'm not familiar with California code. But, NFPA (National Fire Protection Agency), the bible of fire code, does not require open parking structures to be protected. If they go below grade, they then need protection. But even then, only the levels below grade need protection. The rest of the structure typically only has a Dry Standpipe that firemen can hook their hoses up to.

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Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:34 PM

egieszl said:
I've seen plenty of tailgating in parking structures before. The negative is the smoke from the BBQs. A parking structure in California is going to have a sprinkler system so a fire isn't going to be much of an issue. Also, oil and gas stains don't burn. You need a fresh spill.

I hope Cedar Fair wins this case. There is no need for this stadium.

The point is - where people, drinking, and fires are makes a potential for disaster - especially if it is in an enclosed space.

How would you like your nice new convertible top or car damaged from a rowdy group of game attendees? I know I wouldn't.

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