Cedar Fair investing $50 million at Carowinds over three years

A significant number of people leaving Cuyahoga County are also moving to the neighboring counties. That has been going on for at least 20 years.

That's easy to imagine when you look at the cost of living within Cuyahoga County anymore. Sure, there's places to be had for less, but you've got areas like Brecksville, where housing is ridiculous. I love this city, and think it's beautiful, but there's no way I could afford to live here on my own, and that's making a decent IT salary.

State and local income taxes are ridiculous. So happy to not pay those anymore.

What's even worse, is that I have to pay Brecksville taxes out of my paycheck, which funds their parks and their rec center, but I don't even have an option of joining or using the facility even as a "non resident".

From what I have seen, a lot of rec centers exclude non-residents intially. Then as maintenance costs increase (and expecially if there is not a lot of turnover with new families moving in so that the number of empty nesters increases) the city allows non-residents to join for a fee. Brecksville isn't there yet for their rec center.

Paying income tax into a jurisdiction you work in but can't vote in is already immoral.

Yeah. A lot of the ways Ohio handles taxes are pretty stupid.

Then, Wadsworth isn't big enough to have an actual government agency handle their tax reporting to the IRS, or whatever, so they use the CCA. Those people are absolute scam artists, who pose as official and threaten legal action over $3.04 in "fees" because taxes were paid in March and they want it in January, or something.

I still don't understand it.

Didn't we already fight a war over taxation without representation?

I submitted to news, but Carowinds announced 2 new (much needed) slides for the water park, as well as food venue upgrades (and I'm sure other, non-announced, infrastructure upgrades).

I'm excited!

Are you sure its not a decoy announcement?

~Rob

Jeff said:

Paying income tax into a jurisdiction you work in but can't vote in is already immoral.

Someone should revolution their asses.

Because city services are free?

Of course not, no one is arguing that. Paying income taxes to two jurisdictions, one of which you don't live in, is the issue.

But if you work in a city and are not a resident, you still get the benefits of that city's services. And those city services cost money with the costs paid by someone.

If you don't want to pay income taxes in two different cities, live where you work. Or live or work in a city that doesn't have an income tax. Or live where they give 100% reciprocity for taxes paid to another city.

GoBucks89 said:

But if you work in a city and are not a resident, you still get the benefits of that city's services.

Or, do I?

Notice how I said that non-residents aren't even allowed to use the rec center, even on a guest pass. I can't use the outdoor basketball courts that are across the parking lot, either. The parks and recreation I can access here? Cleveland MetroParks, and Cuyahoga Valley National Park.

Those are the only services the city provides? Just a rec center and a basketball court. No city maintained roads that allow you access to work? The city doesn't have a police force or fire department?

No, but if I'm paying for all of them, shouldn't I be able to access all of them?

I am not really speaking to the issues of any specific city and which of its services it allows which group of people to access. More to the its immoral to require people to pay income taxes to a city in which they do not reside.

As to the specific examples, I can understand why a city would want to limit certain services to residents. Though with all the effort various Cleveland suburbs have put into attracting businesses I would think allowing access to things like a rec center to non-residents who work in the city (and thus pay taxes) would be a good way of attracting businesses. Brecksville though does have a certain snob factor to it. LOL

GoBucks89 said:

If you don't want to pay income taxes in two different cities, live where you work. Or live or work in a city that doesn't have an income tax.

Thanks for that somewhat impractical advice, though I did just that and left the state entirely.

I've never benefited from any taxes paid to other municipalities. Even the freeways and state routes are maintained by the state. I sure as hell wouldn't derive thousands of dollars in benefits paid to those other cities. But I always contributed to that city's economy by eating lunch there and shopping in stores.