Cedar Fair considering year-round resort expansion for off-point Radisson

Posted Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:58 AM | Contributed by Jeff

Cedar Fair, LP has applied to the city of Sandusky for tax incentives for the potential hotel expansion project. Under the plan being considered, the Radisson Harbour Inn, which features 237 rooms and an adjoining T.G.I. Friday’s restaurant, would be converted into a year-round family resort complex, highlighted by a large indoor water park.

Read the official press release.

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Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:06 AM
The plot thickens...

I figured it was only a matter of time before they tried something like this, given the success of Great Bear Lodge. I take the request for tax abatement almost as a, "OK, you're screwing with us with this stupid parking tax, now go ahead and make it up to us or else." I'd hate to be a council person that voted for that tax...

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Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:20 AM
That's just what I was thinking ;) ... lots of negative thoughts in Sandusky regarding the parking tax.

Cedar Fair made no secret of wanting year-round income in Sandusky. No doubt they'll do this the right way.

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Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:42 AM
Why not simply use TTD as a huge "tent pole" and keep the park itself open year-round? ;)

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Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:49 AM
I'm not so sure it would be Kalahari huge, but maybe, just maybe within shouting distance of Great Bear huge. Did I tell you they'd build it at the Radisson or what?

-'Playa

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Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:57 AM
The company owns land directly across the street that they currently use for employee and overflow parking (across Rt 6). I see a parking garage being built over there and the hotel/waterpark being expanded into the current parking area. They can't go to their north, east or west so this seems like the only option.

A bridge would probably be built to connect the parking structure with the hotel. Now there is some land to the south of that area that butts up against the railroad tracks. It is quite a chunk of property and was rumored to be several things in the past including a pitch and putt golf course and a big resort hotel. If Cedar Fair got their hands on that piece of property then the potential increases.

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Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:26 PM
Well they do have everything they need to Annex themselves and the entire pennisula. I can see it now

Cedar Point, Population 15, Mayor Dick Kinzel welcomes you!

If they dont get the tax abatement I dont think this woudl be far off.

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Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:31 PM
Like wahoo skipper said, that piece of property, the former Tracy farm, has been rumored for development for some time. The current owners even mapped out an indoor water resort project and a layout was printed in the Sandusky Register. I long thought that land would be the ideal spot for Cedar Point to expand. I bet it wouldn't come cheap at this point.

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Tuesday, July 15, 2003 5:05 PM
I think this is a great idea. I figured something was up, as I went to the breakfast buffet at the Radisson Sun., and there were two guys outside measuring the building. I thought that they may be measuring for new siding.

I think CP will do this right, as Great Bear Lodge is pretty stiff competition. Great Bear is successful not just because of the water park, but because of the rustic theme of the lodge. CP will need to do some major theming and redesign to make this work. Not necessarily a rustic theme, but they need to add a lot of fun activities to the hotel, and expand the adult entertainment options as well.

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Tuesday, July 15, 2003 6:36 PM
That would be fine, I just came back from that hotel after my very first trip to CP it was and ok hotel, but yeah the parking tax and the fact that there is no shuttle...If this does pass they had better get a shuttle. I mean if the low budget hotels in Sandusky can run shuttles to the park CP's hotels should. Charge a resort fee per guest per night, but get the shuttle.
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Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:04 PM
If I remember correctly, aren't there plans to build another indoor-waterpark resort somewhere around Sandusky? These places must be very popular! Yeah, we know CF wants people in the winter, but how well will it do? How well does Great Bear Lodge do in the winter?

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Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:36 PM
Pete - You mean to tell me that Louie's during the offseason isn't good enough for ya? They've got the best pizza around, and the shortest waits for pool in Sandusky :)

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Wednesday, July 16, 2003 2:56 AM
Bubba: yes, the Kalahari Resort is coming to the area. It is a 140 acre water park and convention center project. The resort, which will technically be in Huron Twp., will be on Rt. 250 south of Rt. 2. The project is supposed to include hotel rooms, condos, conference center, restaurants, and retail outlets.

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Wednesday, July 16, 2003 6:20 AM
Sandusky, Ohio - soon to be the Orlando of the North! :)

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Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:23 AM
Well this is how I see Things playin out in the long run

Goodbye parking lot hello parking garage on the Sandusky side roughly directly acroos from the employee dorms CP own alot of land over there but not all of it with some persuasion they should be able to pick up the rest. Which would leave the current lot open for expansion which when you think about its size is very heartning

A Monorail across the causeway, alittle far fetched for conservative CP but the only way too move people quickly and comfortably. Cost I think would be overlooked once you take into account the number of people from the parking deck, its own great bear, and employe's as well possibly, plus while the guest are on the monorail you could debrief them about the rules and regs of the park.

Just my .02 cents

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Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:40 PM
When we were at CP during Memorial Day weekend they asked my wife to do a survey for it. The gentleman conceded that all he really knew was the obvious. Their building it to compete with Great Bear, but that like always CP would go bigger and better than the competition.
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Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:25 PM
It's like CP sings this to other parks: "Anything you can do, I can do better. I can do anything better than you!" ;)

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Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:49 PM
Corey says: "Pete - You mean to tell me that Louie's during the offseason isn't good enough for ya? They've got the best pizza around, and the shortest waits for pool in Sandusky "

Hey, that is true, not to mention the cheapest beer!

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