Canobie Lake Park begins construction on its Euro-Fighter roller coaster

Have to admit, I almost started a thread in General Buzz over this. What I want to know is, how much of a cost difference is there between Dare Devil Dive at SFoG and Untamed - and more specifically, how much is atttributed to the fact that SFoG has lapbars on their Eurofighter?

I know it's unlikely anyone here can give a precise accounting due to either not knowing or not being allowed to speak freely.....but is it possible we could get a decent guess? Anything under 150-200K makes it an "upgrade" that I'd consider worth the extra cost...over 250K I'd have to start reconsidering...

"The angle off the first hill is 97 degrees, so it’s pretty much straight down.” Uhhh huh.

Cool theming. Glad this absolutely fantastic park is getting a new coaster, but too bad it had to be one of these. HATE these rides. They hurt my head more than Maverick and Intimidator by a long shot. And it's not because of the over the shoulder restraint. It's the damn headrest slamming into my head over and over again.

I've only been on the one at Mall of America, but I really dig it. I'd love to see more of these.

Ride Saw and Speed in the UK and then see if you still want more. Maybe they just age poorly. I don't remember Mystery Mine being too bad when it opened. The UK rides made me feel like I was on a Vekoma without any padding.

I can confirm - Saw was not a pleasant experience - although as it is newer - I would think it was due to design over the ageing theory. Mystery mine wasn't bad - but certainly it reminded me of a carnival ride.

I rode Mystery Mine for the first time last Spring, and there were some places that made me say "OUCH!" Luckily, it was the slower parts of the ride.

It's too bad that it's beginning to appear that these things don't age well (or track well from the beginning), because the one that I rode, so far, was a lot of fun.

Rage was good, Speed I liked (sorry Matt), and the Mall Sponge rocked...

Saw was plain brutal, and somehow even worse in the front...great theming couldn't make up for the fact that it inflicted large doses of pain.

I found Speed to be worse than Saw, Gator! It wasn't just a few spots either. It was non-stop head slamming from the first drop to the brakes. Even going up and down hills. Had nothing to do with turns. I couldn't figure out why it could possibly be so bad.

I find it ironic that Saw was a painful coaster.

It's all part of the theming.