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No, Valleyfair's inverted coaster was never officially confirmed by the park. I think that they realized it just wasn't going to happen before they would have announced anything. I never saw the logo you're talking about - most likely it's a fake - but I think there is enough evidence and "people who really do know" to support the fact that there was going to be a B&M inverted coaster in 2002. I think it's a pretty safe bet to expect it in '03.
One other cancelled coaster I forgot to list - SFGAm's B&M flyer that's now sitting in Georgia. And no, that one was never confirmed by the park either...so belive what you will.
-Nate
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Guess you are right, but I'm not 100% convinsed. I can't be 100% convinsed until I've seen photos of the thing going up, though. (well, ok, an official anouncment.) If an inverted does appear at VF for 2003, I'll have a reason to go out that way for once. If not, oh well. And about S:UF. It looks like another cloneable B&M ala B:TR. SFGAm has a perfect spot for one, hopefully they put it there in 2003, but if they don't, that will be just as good. They've already lost one Schwarzkopf to B&M, they might lose another... The layout fits perfect.
http://www.meritusllc.com/RMU/new2002/Layout_small.jpg
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coasterdude, it was never postponed for 2002 either really. Good ol Walt liked to walk around the place where she (Falcon) should end up if its built, but after VF found out that the GM was changing they knew it wasn't feasible to try and build a coaster.
Actually, I suppose Mr. McCenizie could have green lighted a coaster right away, but I think he truly understands the current problems and potential that Valleyfair has and is doing things right in order to get the park in the right direction.
This isn't to say that Walt wasn't a great guy, and didn't have a vision for the park, rather some people believed that he didn't adapt to the way park trends were changing.
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How bout Thunder Run?
I hear it was originally designed to go to Americana but the owners could not get the backing to build it after the design faze.
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coasterdude, it was never postponed for 2002 either really. Good ol Walt liked to walk around the place where she (Falcon) should end up if its built, but after VF found out that the GM was changing they knew it wasn't feasible to try and build a coaster. Actually, I suppose Mr. McCenizie could have green lighted a coaster right away, but I think he truly understands the current problems and potential that Valleyfair has and is doing things right in order to get the park in the right direction.
Ah, but I have it in good faith that the coaster *was* at one point green-lighted (until the problems with the site and such arose, that is). As far as I know the changing GM had nothing to do with "Falcon," but that could have easily been a part of it, as well. Do you honestly think the "Plan" was to have VF receive *no* new attractions for two years in a row?
As for S:UF - yes, it could easily end up as a cloneable coaster. However, I'm pretty sure the ride *was*, in fact, originally intended for the SFGAm site (hence the massive digging to fit the site at SFoG). Of course, S:UF isn't the only coaster that SFGAm was supposed to receive and didn't - remember the Chiller clone for SFGAm that fell through due to problems with the SFGAdv ride?
-Nate
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The season WOF got taken over they were going to get a racing woodie called Vampire, even had the name trademarked (they later dropped it). They were going to build a Mouse along with the 'rang in 2000, but budgets got cut (cough*MillenniumForce*cough j/k). And lastly they were to get a CCI in 2001 but AGAIN budgets got cut, so they decided to build CampSnoopy and Thunderhawk, BUT budgets got cut AGAIN and Thunderhawk was bumped back a year.
Yes the redheaded stepchild park of CFLP. :)
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coasterdude, yeah I really do believe that nothing new for two years is something that won't be uncommon under the new GM.
The coaster was never green lighted in that the design work wasn't done, there was no real problems with the site, and the information that you've received is, I'm sorry, faulty.
There was talk of adding a coaster this year, but it was never givin the green light and was locked in on the back burner because of the transition at higher levels. I really don't care to get into anything more specific then what I already have, and it'd be kind of dumb for me to do so. Just know that the Falcon was a ways away from being announced and set in as a new ride in 2002.
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I dont recall Valleyfair having any plans on building a new coaster for 2002 season there were big rumors going around the park for an inverted coaster for this season but its not going to happen maybe 2003 will be our turn for at least something. I did remember reading fan fair a while back and the general manager said talks are underway for the 2003 season reguarding when is Valleyfair going to step in for the coaster race it was something like that. I'm looking forward to August thats when Valleyfair tends to announce any type of coaster for the next season we shall wait and see.
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Okay, VF Fan, but now we're fighting over terminology.
What I've said is not faulty because I didn't give any specifics of the informatin I was told. There were problems that, while they probably wouldn't have caused the delay of the ride on their own, they did play a part. The site was one of them, though I don't care to elaborate any more than you did. I never claimed any design was ever supplied by B&M; as far as I know, you're right - it wasn't. The original plan *was* for VF to get a B&M invert for 2002. The plan changed (due to what I think we can agree were several accumulating problems) and to me, that's a postponement, however far away from happening the project was. But like I said, it's all terminology.
-Nate
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I get you Nate, I see where you're coming from now. I do appreciate the fact that you're not letting everything out in the open though.
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*** This post was edited by Valleyfair Fan on 3/5/2002. ***
We had loads of cancellations here in the UK. Mostly at Alton, SW1 and SW2 were Arrow pipelines, but because of the height restrictions at Alton and the friction losses incurred by the pipelines it was never going to get anywhere really... There was a Schwarzkopf non looping coaster planned for the woods at the back of the Corkscrew. It was a single track, with 3 lifthills, and two of them side by side, timed so for a short while 2 trains would race. The coaster was cancelled when owner John Broome sold the park to fund another park he was building at Battersea Power Station, London.He eventually went bankrupt and never opened Battersea, even though millions had been spent, and even rides installed. More recently Camelot filed planning permission for an Invertigo, to increase the parks' appeal, locals objected and permission was denied- instead they got a looping Pinfari and lost Tower of Terror in a fire...(part of which, a fibre glass stone wall is in my living room!)
Then there's the Vekoma Hammerhead, now cancelled twice, at 6Flags Holland, and Fantasy Island.
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