Can anyone top Millennium Force?

Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:30 AM
Which park will top Millennium Force standing at 310 feet. Can anyone break the 400 foot mark? Whoe's next?
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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:32 AM
Steel Dragon 2000 at Nagashima Spaland has already topped Millennium Force.

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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:33 AM
i think quality not quanity (or in this case height) will become popular, look at ExGF, pure genius! Look at the S&S Ta2k in Japan, it's a crappy deign, they are just interested in breaking records, so they leave out quality.

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HurricaneGeauga- Just in case
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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:34 AM
Steel Dragon 2000 of Nagashima Spa-Land broke Millennium Force's height record by standing 318 feet high. It goes 96 mph and is over 8000 feet long! That makes it the longest coaster in the world. It also opened August 3, 2000? I'm not sure, but I know it was last year sometime.

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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:39 AM
Since when is the S&S Thrust Air a crappy design. Last time I checked, it did A LOT more than TA2k's design! And also , it has been confirmed to only break the speed record, not height or length.

I am one who is living by CCI's "rule" that bigger is not always better. I could care less when another coaster breaks a height record. I also don't believe a non-launched (whether it be by air or LIM/LSM) coaster will break 400 feet for a long time. It just wouldn't be cost-effective to have a 400+ foot tall lift hill. You'd spend so much money on the lift that you'd have to turn right back around and enter the brakes. IMO air is the only way we are going to see really tall coasters. There is plenty of air available and the electricity would cost too much to launch a coaster over 400 feet.

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A New World. A New Technology. One Last Hope for Salvation. Neon Genesis Evangelion *** This post was edited by Coastercraver on 6/27/2001. ***
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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:22 AM
If Intamin go ahead with the Giga-Coaster at Heide-Park, then that will top Millennium Force, as the park is willing to spend a lot of money to get the tallest coaster in the world. There is a little section on this in issue #55 of First Drop. I just hope they can come to an agreement. I would still rather ride the Nitro 'clone' at Europa Park though (that one is 100% confirmed).
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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:25 AM
I thought the B&M Mega at Europa Park is similar to NITRO, but not a clone.

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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:53 AM

Coastercraver said:
"Since when is the S&S Thrust Air a crappy design. Last time I checked, it did A LOT more than TA2k's design"
To be honest, I think this Japanese ride will pale in comparison to Hypersonic. The most thrilling, scary, and impressive part of the ride was seeing that thin, narrow tower 75 feet in front of you. You get the feeling of power when you're that close. With this thing, you'll have a long time (in comparison) to anticipate the tower, therefore making it a lot less interesting (again, that's relative). Stick with the tower right after the launch, then get creative.

Anyway, back to topping Millennium Force. I think that somebody will top it in the conventional sense. I've seen enough amazing things to realize that limiting engineering is a bad idea. However, the lift hills will follow in MF style by increasing the angle of ascent to save space. As for cost, that will keep changing like it has for years. As parks grow, they spend more money. Right now, constructing a 400 ft. conventional coaster isn't too feasible, but very well may be in the near future as park's budgets increase.

As far as launched rides, I suspect we'll see one break 400 feet within the next two years. Just look at the TA2Ks... how hard can it be to increase the power for a taller height?

::wheeze::

Well, if you've read that whole novel, I congratulate you. Haha.

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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 11:13 AM
Actually, going 100 mph into that intense turn could be very thrilling.
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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 11:17 AM
That's why I put 'clone' like that, and not just clone. This is because it is very similar, but slightly different. In most peoples view, it will be just like Nitro. By the way, they are voting for the color of the ride, I really hope it's nice and bright, like Nitro which I think is a breath of fresh air as far as it's colors go. I'm betting th German's pick the Black and Red colour scheme. I really hope they don't - it would be awful. Vote for pink yellow and blue please!

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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 11:24 AM
Hasn't Superman the escape never been topped yet?
It is actually 105 feet taller than the force.
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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 11:28 AM
Yeam SFLD...but Superman isn't a coas..never mind....I don't "want to feed the trolls" ;)

mikey
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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 11:28 AM
Coastercraver and SFA just changed my mind about the TA2K a little. Never, IMO, would I think it would be too fun to go too high on the 90degree style incline, it would turn into climbing a tower! But the idea just struck me, what if the incline was less than 90degrees, making them high then, just imagine being shot up MFs lift or something. Air is the answer. Plus, if you've watched XLC go by with empty cars all day, waiting to ride twice, I would hate to have to go through a launch that put me up 400ft plus on the vertical, that may be way too extreme. Sometimes, the cars just don't look as if they are going to make it over about half the time, they even still rollback(several people saw it last Wednesday).
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Wednesday, June 27, 2001 12:05 PM
Stan Checketts said that future TA2K's could be programmed to roll-back randomly to add an extra thrill. It has happened many many times laready at King's Dominion on XLC.

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