Bush Gardens Tampa 2011 Coaster

First off, I would like to say that this is the first topic that I am going to post on this forum so please tell me if I am doing anything wrong.
I searched the site and could not find any info on the new coaster that is going to be coming up at Busch gardens Tampa/Africa. While I know that an official report has not been made by the park, blueprints of the supposed coaster have been released and work has already been started.
The "word around the street" is that it is going to be a triple launch Intamin terrain-type coaster. Some people say that its cars will be like the normal maverick megalite, while others think they may go with a furious baco wing rider type design.
What are your guys ideas about the new coaster? When do you think this will be opened?
Here is the latest update of the coaster from bgtguide.com

And here is the supposed "leaked" layout of the coaster.

Welcome to CoasterBuzz.

Please take a moment and read the posting guidelines. It's usually a good idea to hang around for a while before posting to get the general vibe of how discussions go around here. Generally speaking, speculation about what's being built next is frowned upon.

And the park is Busch Gardens. :)

That leaked layout looked like this wiring schematic I just completed....almost unreadable! LOL

Bush Gardens? haha...made me chuckle for a minute.

Welcome to Coasterbuzz. I think Carrie pretty much summed it up.

There's no speculation on whether or not a new ride is going in, no doubt about it at this point. Those plans are also very real, as are two PDFs I have that appear to be themeing guidelines for/by the construction company regarding rock work, path styles, etc. While those layout plans are somewhat difficult to "read," you can definitely see three launch sections, at least two brakes (one which looks like the transfer), and the station.

I had not heard about the new coaster. Thanks for sharing.

My bad. The poster asked for guidance and I provided some.

Oh, no harm meant Carrie. Sorry if you took it that way. I just wanted to put the fact out there that this is a coaster being built (either a Mack or Intamin, likely Intamin, although a few things lean towards Mack), and those plans are very real. Beyond that this will be a launch coaster using LIM/LSM tech, and the general layout, of course it is speculation right now. We do have a semi-confirmed layout, though.*

* I say semi-confirmed because I do not know how old the diagram is, and there could have been some changes made depending on how recent it is.

There is a little info about the new coaster at Screamscape, complete with a enhanced photo of those layout plans.

What I find interesting about this new coaster is that a lot of the park will be changed in order to build it. According to the layout plans in the link provided, the ride will make use of Rhino Rally's water ride section, which was recently closed, with no hope of reopening. Other areas of the park around the new coaster are said to be changing to.

As bad as I want a wing rider in the US, the plans don't look like a ride of that kind. Things are always subject to change though. It may be possible that these plans were leaked on purpose in order to throw everyone off.

OH, I almost forgot... Welcome to CoasterBuzz, Constant Coasters (Can I call you CC?). I find the nervousness of new posters to be really cute. You'll probably be outspoken and brave in no time. :)

Trust me, we don't need an Intamin wing rider in the U.S. Furious Baco is a serious contender for worst steel coaster I have ever ridden. There are only two good seats on the whole ride (inside front row), the rest are like riding on a pogo stick with OTSHs. I was with enthusiasts who could sit in the back seat of Texas Giant all day, yet they thought Furious Baco was too rough. It was an interesting concept, however, they failed
in the execution.

I'm hoping that Busch is going with Mack instead of Intamin.

Bush gardens is in Dallas. I think Laura grows petunias there. :)

I never understood the allure of the wing rider train. Furius Baco looked like a boring layout to me, with trains designed to make it seem more interesting. And I've heard it was rough. Just seems like a waste for an accelerator coaster to me.

I find it staggering that no one can fix the outboard seat problem. The bouncing is the problem (so I hear) in the outside seats on X2 as well, even with the new trains. While the concept is novel, I'm not sure I see it as more than a variation on inverters. Instead of the track above you, it's at your side.

It's probably not that they can't fix it, but rather that they can't do so in a way that's economically feasible. Which really isn't that surprising.

The rumor started a while back for this coaster and was confirmed when a member of Orlando United did some digging around. They found the plans for the 2011 ride in a public folder on a construction contractor’s website, and the plans align with the survey markers that have been spotted at the park.

Take a 10 foot stick of 1/2 inch pvc and move it gently up and down in the center. See what happens to either end of the pipe. Same thing is happening to the wing rider trains.

I'm no expert but if you used a system of steel lattice would that not help out? Or would this require active dampening?

No hard feelings, but mack sucks. Unless you need a giant terrain mouse coaster.

Actually.... I would ride it.

TheMillenniumRider said:
No hard feelings, but mack sucks. Unless you need a giant terrain mouse coaster.

You've clearly not yet been sufficiently fortunate to ride's Mack's awesome launched coaster Blue Fire at Europa Park. This is what Maverick (which I also like a LOT before anyone asks) should have been. One of these at Busch Tampa? WOW is all I can say really :)

Yeah, I really enjoyed X2 as a ride, but I found that it was a little rough at some points, and also a little bouncy. I really hope that this new coaster does not have the wing rider seats because it seems like it really ruins the ride experience.(Going of others point of views) I also really don't see why Mack is getting bashed so much. While they have had problems, and what coaster company has not had a couple of problems, I must say that the Blue Fire coaster is really good. I think Mack may have a bright future in the coaster biz.

TheMillenniumRider said:
Take a 10 foot stick of 1/2 inch pvc and move it gently up and down in the center. See what happens to either end of the pipe.

That sounds like a Rock Concert Movement. Ready. Go.

Jeffrey Seifert said:
Trust me, we don't need an Intamin wing rider in the U.S. Furious Baco is a serious contender for worst steel coaster I have ever ridden. .............

WOW....! Really? I rode it last year and loved it. The layout (to the onlooker) looks as boring as wet toast but that launch took my breath away. Ofcourse we only rode in the front so that might be my answer. I thought Tomahawk was the roughest coaster and Port Aventura.

A "Blue Fire" like coaster at Bush Gardens (See, this is gonna stick now...LOL) would be a sure hit.

The question is, will the new mack coasters be as reliable as the b&m coasters that Busch seems to have built now in days. Their is no doubt that B&M is very reliable, so do you think Mack is going to be as reliable for Busch as B&M?

Martin Valt said:

TheMillenniumRider said:
No hard feelings, but mack sucks. Unless you need a giant terrain mouse coaster.

You've clearly not yet been sufficiently fortunate to ride's Mack's awesome launched coaster Blue Fire at Europa Park. This is what Maverick (which I also like a LOT before anyone asks) should have been. One of these at Busch Tampa? WOW is all I can say really :)

No I have not. I don't have the means of going overseas yet, still in college. However that ride is in the minority for Mack, so I am judging based on what i have ridden. Get back to me in a couple more years. :)