B&M Question

Monday, April 8, 2002 7:33 PM
Doesn't it seem like rides like Raptor or Batman the Ride have gone by the way side? There was a sudden rush for everyone to have one and now, no one is getting them! What the therory on that?
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Monday, April 8, 2002 7:47 PM

Hmm... I think that not many are being built now as compared to a few years ago because most parks that can AFFORD them have them... and it's not like a steel looper or woodie, IMO, where you can have lots of differing layouts... to me, all the inverts are basically the same. Some are longer, higher, etc. but they're all intense and fast. They all feel the same to me, and I think having two in one park would be sort of pointless (except dueling/racing).

I do think that the invert was the biggest coaster development since the steel looper. They'll continue to be built well into the future.

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Tuesday, April 9, 2002 5:21 AM

Relative to the number of coasters being built overall, is there really a decline? I don't think there is.

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Tuesday, April 9, 2002 10:36 AM
one new one this year at WBMW and thorpe park is getting one next year, so i dont think we have seen the end of them yet.
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Tuesday, April 9, 2002 10:59 AM

Don't forget Le Vampire at La Ronde. Beyond that, how many non-inverts? Silver Star, Batman Dark Knight, the two flyers... what else? Again, relatively speaking, I wouldn't say the inverter has fallen out of demand.

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Tuesday, April 9, 2002 11:11 AM

As to all inverts being relatively the same....

I think it all depends on what the park is willing to pay for. For instance... while it is a great ride, the design of Dorney Park's Talon could fit into any park with a a very small amount of change. However, rides such as Alpengeist and Great Beat seem to be designed with regards to their surroundings. You could not take one of these two coasters and place them in another park with different terrain and surroundings. Don't get me wrong... not comparing Great Bear to Alpengiest. But even Great Bear's relative "tameness" is greatly enhanced by the way its layout makes full use of its surroundings.

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Tuesday, April 9, 2002 11:13 AM
Don't forget that Vekoma is building their huge inverted (SLC) this year. While full circuit inverts are declining in the overall number being built each year don't forget that new themes on the ride went up in huge numbers the last couple of years (GIB's, Impulses, family inverts, setpoints, etc...) I agree that many of the parks that can afford a nice B&M invert already have on or at least an SLC, now it's time to develop the existing technologies into newer twists on the original theme.
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Friday, April 12, 2002 6:49 PM
Almost every park has an inverted, so B&M is making more floorless and hypers. Now that they designed a great flying coaster I think a lot of parks are going to be buying those instead.SUF in SFGADV in 2003, they're 4th B&M?B&MRULES!!!!!!! Ajrides.
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Friday, April 12, 2002 7:01 PM

Yes, B&M is simply dying for bussiness... they just can't seem to catch a break when it comes to parks wanting to put in their rides.

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Friday, April 12, 2002 9:48 PM
YOU GUYS WISH!!! S:UF isnt going anywhere, its truly the most awesome ride in the entire planet!! haahah, SFGADV in 2003 hahahah, and yeah B&M does RULE!!!
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Saturday, April 13, 2002 5:25 AM
We (sfgadv) are getting either a flyer, 4d, or standup next year.
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Saturday, April 13, 2002 9:56 AM
If B and M makes more of em like Top Gun bring it on that is a great layout and so fast paced. I think if B and M made more coaster with no midcourses I would like them much more.

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Saturday, April 13, 2002 10:04 AM
Magnumforce, the thing about that is B&M builds what the parks ant them to build. In fact, either Walter or Claude has gone on record saying he would like to build more intense machines. I do agree with you, though!

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Saturday, April 13, 2002 12:41 PM
"Midcourseless" Beemers ROCK! Fast, intense, quick-pacing. Compact, lots of twists and turns, high G forces...

*** This post was edited by rollergator on 4/13/2002. ***

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Saturday, April 13, 2002 1:16 PM
(You) SFGaV, ARE getting a flyer next year, please, MARK MY WORDS!

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So what is better? SFMM or CP? I don't care! They both have 29 coasters between them that they build so we can have a good time!

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Saturday, April 13, 2002 1:42 PM
i disagree with zero-g on his comment that B&M is dying for business. With 7 coasters or however many they are building this year, i dont think thats dying for business.
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Saturday, April 13, 2002 1:55 PM
I can proply bet that SFGAdv is going to get a flying coaster next year. I hope they get a really good wooden coaster thou.
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Saturday, April 13, 2002 3:32 PM

New B&Ms for 2002 and 2003

Silver Star-Speed-Europa Park (Germany)
Batman: The Dark Knight - Floorless - Six Flags New England (USA)
Vampire - Inverted - La Ronde (Canada)
AIR - Prone Coaster - Alton Towers (England)
Superman: Ultimate Flight - Prone Coaster - Six Flags Over Georgia (USA)
Superman: Ride of Steel - Floorless - Movie World Madrid (Spain)
Batman: The Pursuit - Inverted - Movie World Madrid (Spain)3 New B&M's For 2003
Project Calypso - Inverted - Thorpe Park (England)
Winged Monkey - Inverted - Wonderful World of Oz (Winged Monkey & Wonder World of Oz is cancelled)
Falcon - Inverted - Valley Fair!

Dueling Dragons-Dueling Inverted-Universal Studios Krefeld (Germany)

Considering that four new B&M inverteds are opening, I don't think there is a decline.

*** This post was edited by Vertigo on 4/13/2002. ***

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Saturday, April 13, 2002 3:38 PM
the wonderful world of oz park is no longer being built as far as i can remember (please correct me if i am wrong!)
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Saturday, April 13, 2002 4:07 PM
Since when was falcon confirmed, eh?

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