This past Saturday my niece and I went to King's Island for opening day. We decided to go onto the Vortex. We sat in the middle. Upon the second of two consective loops my niece and i expericened a black out .
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It's all about the X Baby:]
I've heard a few people say the same thing. I've never had it happen to me personally, but a friend of mine told me he comes close almost every time he rides Vortex. I always feel a little wobble-wobble after getting off. Nothing like when I get off MF, though. I personally like when I feel that way getting off a coaster. I feel like took control of me, and I was at the mercy of two things, a living piece of steel and/or wood, and mother nature.
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UCSigep
"Did you make a copy? Because if you made a copy, we could watch the copy."
I've blacked out on Top Gun: TJC at Carowinds in the batwing.
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The Jet Coaster ROARS!
The only time I've ever blacked out on a coaster was on Montezooma's Revenge at KBF. I also fainted after 3 consecutive rides on a Huss Enterprise.
The only coaster that I have ever blacked out on is the Arrow looper @ Darien Lake. That was also my first looper, btw. But to this day, I still can't remember the loop on that ride..!!!
Some people black out easier than others. On every single MF ride I did it fine, however my brother has never seen the first turn!!! (he blacked out :)
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Dust myself up
and I scream at the sky
-Max Cavalera
Many people used to black out on Viper at SFMM before all the trims were added.
Why do you black out anyways? Why do I sometimes think tham friend that tell me this are lying?
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Coasters- a little slice of heaven
Is blacking out even healthy/unhealthy?
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"One good thing about all this, with all this fresh air were gonna sleep like babies"
My only blackout came from the Shockwave (Arrow) @ SFGAm. It felt very strange.... and I was sitting in like the 4th row...
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May 5th, Gurnee, Illinois, "I'm sprinting for V2"
I've blacked out on Batman at SFGAm. Accually, 3 times. I think it was on one of the inversions. I don't know what one, but it wasn't the vertical loop.
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V2, Deja Vu... how can it be better? Add Viper! Oh, wait. It's already there!
I felt the exact same thing as Ron Toomer's Revenge. I did not black out however (or maybe I did) but I absolutely came close. I was going through the loops and inversions and I was pushed completely down and it was the most uncomfortable experience I have ever had on a coaster. I had never been pushed into my seat before with so much force. I thought my sight was dimming which is a sign of a blackout coming but I did not black out, I was just beginning to. I never wanted or want to go on Vortex again. I have ridden Anaconda and Vortex and Anaconda and Vortex are similar models but Vortex is more powerfull and a little more dangerous in my mind. I love Anaconda and have never had a problems riding it, I'm even going tomorrow to experience its thrills. I hate Vortex and I don't think I will ever ride it again because I think I was almost going to blackout without a doubt in my mind.
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Dave
Here is the nswer to your questions Craig the Coaster Freak and s. The reasona person blacks out on a ride is because of the lack of oxyegn flowing to the brain. When a person experiences high g forces such as 4 or 5 or 6 or more g's for a sustained or continous amount of time, that person can black out. When that person experiences those g's there is so much pressure on the heart brain and body that blood cannot flow upward toward the brain. The brain then cannot function without oxygen and a person passes out or faints basically and is unconsious. (sp) Then when the g forces return to normal or at least close to normal, the oxygen flow returns and flows to the brain when a person is "revived" and "wakes up" again. From 5 to 8 g's a person is known to black out. At 20 g's of lateral g's a person is known to have blood bleed from their ears and at 40 g's of lateral acceleration, a person is known to die. G's and black out are, user S, extremely dangerous and very uncomfortable for riders and that is why they are avoided as much as possible. High g forces can cause black outs which in turn can cause injuries.
There was once a loop in France that pulled 12 g's through its loop. It was 30 feet high for a ramp and then it flowed into a loop and then came out of the loop and the ride was over. Riders were known to break their necks, have back problems and oher severe injuries due to the 12 g's the loop produced. G's are extremely dangerous to a certain extent. If g's are kept under 5 at all times and maybe for only 2 or 3 seconds, then coasters are usually safe and not dangerous. Most g's are always under 5 g's and maybe hit 5 for literally only a few milliseconds.
Maybe people have been known to blackout for the Shockwave coaster through the double loop sequence at a six flags park in texas. The author of a coaster book I had read blacked out during the ride. Blackouts are not healthy at all.
A person can experience a black out and know when it is coming and what will happen from a few things...
1. You (the rider) will experiences great or extreme amounts of force and pressure on the top of your head and your whole body that will push you down into the seat and I mean you will scrunch up like a scared turtle.
2. Your vision will become fuzzy and blurry such as when you open your eyes in the morning and can't focus to well.
3. Then your perpherial (sp) vision, which is the vision dpending how far to the side you can see without turning your head, will become smaller and smaller until you can only see straight ahead.
4. Then the window of vision will become smaller and smaller until it disappears and you cannot see anymore at all. Everything becomes black and now you have just experienced a black out.
Lastly, red outs occur but they are far less common but are much much much more dangerous. A red out is when too much blood flows to the brain. There is too much pressure and the blood flows to the brain but too much and there also is not enough blood circulating through the heart. A red out can occur when a person goes through the outside of a loo[ such as on an inverted coaster like Alpengeist at BGW. A red out can occur at 3 g's of force on an outside of a loop. What is so bad about red outs are that if too much blood flows to the brain and enoguh pressure is put on the brain, then a red blood vessel can pop inside the brain and instantly kill someone... so you can see S that redouts and blackouts are dangerous.
And if anyone is still reading this long mesage and want to know, but I had met the ride designer of Millennium Force at PKI last year and he told me that the most forces and most g's takes place when a person is in the 5th row of the train just in case anyone wants to know this if they are planning on riding the Force.
That is your science lesson today, a long but interesting one, unlike other ones that I have submitted before. Bye!
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Dave
And you copied and pasted that from where?
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"SAVING THE WORLD BEFORE BEDTIME" Powerpuff girls
I have alot after the first loop on the Shockwave at SFGA..pretty scary
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AMERICAN EAGLE!! (RED TRAIN)BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ACE15 said:
"Lastly, red outs occur but they are far less common but are much much much more dangerous. A red out is when too much blood flows to the brain. There is too much pressure and the blood flows to the brain but too much and there also is not enough blood circulating through the heart. A red out can occur when a person goes through the outside of a loo[ such as on an inverted coaster like Alpengeist at BGW. A red out can occur at 3 g's of force on an outside of a loop. What is so bad about red outs are that if too much blood flows to the brain and enoguh pressure is put on the brain, then a red blood vessel can pop inside the brain and instantly kill someone... so you can see S that redouts and blackouts are dangerous. "
The forces at the top of loop on an inverted coaster are the same as the forces at the top of loop on a non-inverted coaster. The blood is still being pulled away from your brain towards your feet.
A situation where a red-out could occur on a coaster is at the crest of a hill where you are experiencing extreme airtime. Then the blood would be pushed upward toward your brain.
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My name is Jason, and I'm addicted to coasters.
I have blacked out on Ninja at SFStL, when in the front seat heading into the 2nd inversion. For me, I don't think it's uncomfortable at all. In fact, my friend Tim and I would ride Ninja repeatedly just to see how many times we could black out.:) Also, you would have to pull extreme negative g's before a redout would occur. Around 4 or so, which will never happen on a coaster.
-Raven_Rider
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"Hold on tight, with all your might, and enjoy your flight on the Raven!"
Chitown, I did not copy and paste that from anywhere, I know that info by hurt, I once had to do in depoth reasearch for a project on the physics, history, and mechanics of roler coasters, so while doing research all of the info that I stated sinked into my skull somehow. I learned it all from many numerous books and websites and it all came back to me, so I wrote it down but boy did it take awhile.
I was writing it down and I noticed an error at the top of the screen. I put my mouse pointer there, pressed delete and I lost my whole post, I had to start all over again, that happens a lot to me, it's a pain in the butt.
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Dave
What is red-out?
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Drachen Fire, Will it be swimming with the fishies?
A red out is when there are too many negative g's, which causes blood to rush to your head. These are VERY dangerous, much more so than positive.
-Raven_Rider
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"Hold on tight, with all your might, and enjoy your flight on the Raven!"
It doesn't necessarily have to be a mega-looper. Anaconda at PKD for instance is wicked in the first two inversions. I have experienced many fuzzy moments coming out of the 2nd inversion. Thank God it's followed up immediately by a brake run. GASM at SFGA was also quite brutal when it first debuted. Three loops in a row wasn't good for me and thankfully there's once again a brake run after the last inversion.
Other coasters I've had problems with:
Superman Ride of Steel SFA-First ride ever in the first helix. It was about 100 degrees opening day of this coaster and it was probably running really fast as a result. I was also dehydrated.
Two Face (Vekoma Invertigo)-The last row which faces backwards. When you head back through the vertical loop facing forwards there are some wicked G's.
