Big Chief doesn't care about your safety / my trip

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Wednesday, July 2, 2003 5:52 PM
Quickly scanning the train versus having to check each and every lapbar and seatbelt can *easily* save a full minute or two, especially when only one person is staffed to the ride. There are many other policies that corporate parks have (ie leaving the control panel) that Big Chief doesn't follow, and it works fine for them. That's why I'm arguing, because I have the experience with that park, and I know it works fine for them. And yes, those coasters *do* draw lines, sometimes huge lines, on certain days.

Track crossings and leaving the panel *are* related to this discussion because all those policies are in place for safety reasons. So how can you only have a problem with them not following one of those policies and not the others?

If a lapbar is going to fail, it's going to fail. Checking it before the ride is really not going to do *anything* to prevent that from happening.

-Nate
*** This post was edited by coasterdude318 7/2/2003 9:52:59 PM ***

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Wednesday, July 2, 2003 8:37 PM
It takes a minute to check lapbars, probably less.

If something happens to the lap bar between the time that it is un-locked and then locked, it would make a difference to check it.

If only one person is staffed to a major coaster, that should be a safety violation too. A coaster of that size is a lot for one person to keep track of.

It's different for a employee to get hurt during a un-authorized track crossing than a guest getting hurt because the employees were too lazy to check the bars.

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Wednesday, July 2, 2003 8:47 PM
For one person to thoroughly check all lapbars on a train it takes *at least* a minute. Realize that at most major parks there are two-four lapbar checkers and most are *never* able to dispatch a train in a minute. It does take time, and quite a lot of it for one person.

Who says it's a "safety violation" for only one op to be staffed to that ride? What could another staff member do except for increasing capacity (which matters *none* if lapbar checks are visual only).

Like I said, if a lapbar is malfunctioning (not locked), the return springs will bring it back up. If I were operating Zeus I would check bars, but it's the ride-op's choice, and I don't have a major problem with that.

-Nate

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Thursday, July 3, 2003 1:47 AM
It's always been slow there when I've visited. Sure, the chances of a mechanical failure are very, very slim, but if pulling up on the lapbar prevents even one injury or death, it would be worth the other 999,999,999 pulls on the lapbar that didn't fail (assuming "one in a million odds"). It's not like the ride ops have anything better to do.

Shizit, if all they are gonna do is sit there, why am I paying $6 for a couple laps on a coaster ? Let me run it myself and pay $3. Lazy, greedy & unconcerned for your safety, I say again.

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Thursday, July 3, 2003 7:27 AM

coasterdude318 said:


Who says it's a "safety violation" for only one op to be staffed to that ride? What could another staff member do except for increasing capacity (which matters *none* if lapbar checks are visual only).


I said it should be a safety violation. It's a lot for one person to keep track of.

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"Here's my ten cence, my two cence is free"-Eminem

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Thursday, July 3, 2003 10:17 AM
Joe Carroll, it's not as if all the money you spend on rides at Big Chief go to cover the ride op's wages. Heck, take just one ride and you've already paid the ride op for his or her hour of work. It is *certainly* not the ride ops who are greedy, but the park who charges $6/ride and then pays their employees next to nothing.

Rubber Ducky, one person can operate the Big Chief coasters just fine. There's nothing to keep track of! The ride has no computer, and operating it is extremely easy once you get the hang of it. There's no reason to staff two people because there'd be *nothing* for the other person to do.

-Nate

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Thursday, July 3, 2003 1:04 PM
What about the fact that they didn't check the seat-belts?

I work in the kiddie land at SFEG, and you have no idea how many people, parents or not forget or don't even notice there are seat-belts on those rides.

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"Here's my ten cence, my two cence is free"-Eminem

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Thursday, July 3, 2003 3:05 PM
How about adding something to the discussion when you have something of additional substance to add?

I think we heard you whine about the seatbelt/lapbar checks wayyyy back at the top of Page 2 somewhere. You've said it enough to train a parrot, bore him to death and finally get him to bite your nose off all in a single thread. Enough already.

-CO

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*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya 7/3/2003 7:10:23 PM ***

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Thursday, July 3, 2003 4:03 PM
If you don't like what I'm posting, don't read, simple as that.

I'm trying to prove a point here, regardless of weather you agree with me or not, that gives you no right to tell me what and how much to post.

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"Here's my ten cence, my two cence is free"-Eminem

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Thursday, July 3, 2003 4:42 PM
How do you call it proving a point? I call it beating a dead horse...then kicking it, when hitting it with a semi, then just for good measure, getting out a flamethrower and toasting it up...

(Yawn) You bore me

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Thursday, July 3, 2003 5:38 PM
So go somewhere else and read if I bore you. I'm not here to entertain anyone.

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"Here's my ten cence, my two cence is free"-Eminem
*** This post was edited by RubberDucky 7/3/2003 9:39:53 PM ***

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Friday, July 4, 2003 8:00 AM
They do a *visual* seatbelt check. It's quite easy to just look and see if a seatbelt is fastened. I thought we've been through this by now.

-Nate

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Friday, July 4, 2003 9:07 AM
Even Space Mountain at Disneyland has just visual checks.
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Friday, July 4, 2003 9:48 PM
A lot can get in the way of a visual seat belt check. But this is getting tiring, I'm not going to change your mind and your not going to change mine.

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"Here's my ten cence, my two cence is free"-Eminem

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Sunday, July 6, 2003 5:55 PM
Guess who I am:

Hi, I like reading myself type the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. I love spieling--I was born to spiel. Ya know why? Cuz I just LOVE saying the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Did I say 'over and over and over and over and over and over and over again' already? Good! I meant to do that.

Justice dictates that I shoulda been the rideop on Deja Vu. I could tell you more, buut I enjoy saying the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over, so that's what I'll do.

-CO

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The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.

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Sunday, July 6, 2003 8:59 PM
Aren't you just creative...

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"Here's my ten cence, my two cence is free"-Eminem

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