Batman Knight Flight-Rough

Thursday, August 17, 2000 7:41 PM
When SFO first opened in May, BKF souded and rode like a B&M. Now, it sounds like its "straining" and rides much rougher. Why is this.
Thursday, August 17, 2000 7:46 PM
Because the inept employees at SFO need to learn to take care of their rides!
Thursday, August 17, 2000 8:35 PM

I hated that all the way up the lift hill the thing jyrated (spell check?) Badly.I ride the right-last seat.It made the whole station shake and it made an awful screeching noise when it left and when it hit the final stop before entering the station again.You could tell the whole ride that Something is not right.Saturday I'm gonna ride Medusa at SFGrAd.She IS taken care of.
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Friday, August 18, 2000 6:52 AM
uh... i think your wrong. BKF is not really rough only during one of the corkscrews and that is only mild. BKF is not nearly as rough as Mantis, but of course it is at beloved Cedar Point therefore it can't be rough. You want to talk about a ride that has not been taken care of? How about Magnum XL 200. I can tell it used to be the greatest coaster in the world, but not anymore.
Friday, August 18, 2000 6:59 AM
Of course, Aaron, its not..Its almost 12years old. Your acting like Magnum just opened 2 years or something. Its going to feel rough at times, hello, it was made by Arrow.
Friday, August 18, 2000 7:30 AM
I thought Batman was rough too. Compared to Raptor and Mantis.

Bryan, AKA CPbanshee
Friday, August 18, 2000 7:32 AM
B&MAaron, Mantis is also 5 years old this year. Naturally a newer coaster like BKF would be smoother.

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Friday, August 18, 2000 7:55 AM
I don't get this Magnum and Mantis are old stuff, like that's some kind of excuse. A rough coaster is a rough coaster, period. I have ridden lots of coasters that ride as nearly as smooth as when they first opened. And these coasters ARE old. *** This post was edited by Simcoaster on 8/18/2000. ***
Friday, August 18, 2000 9:56 AM
Jeff's avatar Magnum, and all Arrow rides, are going to be rough in the turns by design. B&M rides shouldn't be this way. I rode two of the oldest B&M's in the states at SFGAm (Batman and Iron Wolf), and they were smooth as glass*. When you can feel the cars shifting under you on the lift, which is straight track, then there's a problem with the wheels.

Batman: Knight Flight's wheels are visibly in bad shape, especially the guide wheels (on the outside), which accounts for the extra roughness on the turns and screws. I'm fairly certain that there is a bit of spring adjustment as well, and that would appear to be in poor shape as well. Combine the two and the wheels can hunt and bounce off of turns like an Arrow looper, and that's just poor maintenance.

(* Smooth in their tracking motion, though the transitions tend to be very harsh. These quick transitions should not be confused with rough tracking.)

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Friday, August 18, 2000 1:03 PM
Rode Medusa West on media preview day and last Saturday, still rides smooth as glass, even more so than opening day. Just amazes me.

Even PGA's Top Gun, now 7yrs old, still runs glass smooth, fast and furious. On the other side of the park though, Vortex(B&M standup), is as horribly rough as any old Arrow or Vekoma. Knocks and whacks you around so bad, I don't even bother riding it anymore. Go figure.
Saturday, August 19, 2000 9:55 AM
They must have fixed it. I rode it on Friday the 18th (it didn't open until around 7:00 pm) and it rode incredible! One of the best B&M's I've ever ridden.

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