Banshee Trains Bump

The other night as reported from someone on reddit, the trains bumped on the brake run two nights ago.

Now, Banshee does use magnetics for most of its primary braking, along with typical pneumatics. Looks like this happened during 3 train ops where one train was in the station, another on the block zone on the transfer track outside of the station (kicker wheels only) and the third train was attempting to stop/hold at the end of the final main block where it's almost all entirely the classic pneumatic brakes being used (photo below).

The thing I'm surprised with is the bumper on the train itself being that... Out of place? Assuming the thing isn't designed to fail in minor bumps the way it did, so probably had a decent impact.

Last edited by SteveWoA,
Jeff's avatar

That's weird. Seems like the train outside of the station should have parked further down track, because that's a long runway. I wonder what someone broke because it has otherwise been running without incident for years. Worse yet, you know someone will decide that rain had something to do with it, and now the whole company will shut down at the slightest drop of rain.


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Banshee has that unique high-speed drive system not found on other B&M inverts. It almost looks like the system didn’t recognize the train outside the station and forwarded the third train fast into it for that kind of damage. Proxy sensors do fail sometimes!

Jeff:

Worse yet, you know someone will decide that rain had something to do with it, and now the whole company will shut down at the slightest drop of rain

At least nothing will change at Cedar Point

Jeff:

Worse yet, you know someone will decide that rain had something to do with it, and now the whole company will shut down at the slightest drop of rain.

Well, it is Six Flags now. You can't bump trains if you only run one! :(


-Matt

Was the 2nd train all the way into the transfer section? We were on it a month or so ago and the ride set up just after releasing our train to advance from the brake to the transfer section, only rolled a foot or two forward before stopping. If that happened again and the final train came in hot during the rain I could see this bump happening. I'd say it'd be much harder for the train to get all the way through to the transfer track to hit a train in that spot.

The final train wouldn't drop off the lift until that block is clear though and rolling a foot or two forward should not cause the block to be reported as clear. I think there are usually things that count cars (wheel bogeys or something else on the train) as the train leaves one block and/or enters the next and if the proper number isn't reported to the control system, trains will be stopped. More than likely, the computer did its job, but there is some worn out drive wheels or brake fins that just couldn't hold the train like they should have. Seems strange though on a B&M because they usually have excessively long brake runs. I doubt we'll ever know for sure.

It was very likely the same thing on Magnum back in the day, but they blamed the rain and we all know what happened after that.

Last edited by MDOmnis,

-Matt

There's enough room on the brake run for the incoming train to stop even with ours not having really moved, and it did stop no problem that day. We were in the front of the first train so couldn't see how close the incoming train came to ours, but the ride appears to be designed for that occurrence. At least when things are dry...

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