Although this was part of a news item, it seemed that many folks missed this, as I didn't see any discussion. Here's the full report:
SFMM down 10%
SFGAd down 8%
SDFAm down 8%
Animal Kingdom up 8.6%
There's a lot of interesting figures in there! I'd love to hear some comments.
I also don't buy Shapiro blaming SFMM's drop on the potential closure. If anything that should cause a bump as people (like me for one) visited because of that! *** Edited 4/7/2007 5:41:27 PM UTC by Peabody***
Even more interesting for SFMM and Great Adventure is the decrease in attendance when both got major coasters last year. I thought attendance is supposed to spike when a major new coaster is added?
Even more interesting to me is if you do the average daily attendance of the top 20 North American parks. Paints an entirely different picture in some ways:
I just always amazed that the Magic Kingdom averages more than 45,000 guest per day - year round! That's sick!
I wonder if all the price increases turned people away from the SF parks. Going from a $47.99 to $59.99 gate price and from $10 to $15 for parking was a huge increase at Great Adventure last year.
I'm still of the mindset that it's years of crap service that keeps SF's number down. On the plus side, when you're down there's nowhere to go but up. :)
Then again that was part of the "Great Price Debate of 2006" and the other half was CP lowering the gate and offering that 25 cent cotton candy deal.
Their attendance dropped too and you'll notice this year the gate price inched back up a few bucks and the cotton candy offer is off the table from what I understand.
^ I was doing the mental math as well and find it amazing. What do they charge for parking?
Lord Gonchar said:I just always amazed that the Magic Kingdom averages more than 45,000 guest per day - year round! That's sick!
That is amazing (thanks for the figures)...but I'm shocked that SFMM only gets 9700. That's even WAY less than I would have thought.
The DL numbers impresses me more than magic kingdom because DL is so freakin' small inside the gates by comparison. The day I went last year reportedly had over 62k in the gates. (Pirates opening day) It was insanity.
Aren't there usually about 9,700 just in X's line alone?
....seems like it would be worth closing the joint and selling off the land.
Yes, operating days. And your comment is spot on...hence last years drama. Low attendence + very long season = one of the biggest money losers in the chain.
I assume you like meant a " ;) " with your X comment. But, remember...it usually only hits 300-400 PPH. So a 3-4 hour queue might only have 1000 people in it. :)
*** Edited 4/7/2007 6:58:24 PM UTC by Peabody***
A lot of people, including some of my friends were under the impression that SFMM is already closed, so there is a reason for the 10% drop. Of course six flags not advertising in the big l.a.market, especially tv ads last year, hurt aswell
Sfmm is not loosing money for the chain. It has been repeatetly stated that SFMM is profitable.
Then please show me where SF has actually stated this. I've certainly never seen it and heard MANY times to the contrary.
WDS was built as a concrete slab with 10 attractions in it. There was no theming, scenery, etc. The only "Disney" area is the Studio 1, a hollywood studio in a warehouse. Easy to figure why the place barely get more guests than the seasonal Parc Asterix.
Then please show me where SF has actually stated this/
Every article in the L.A.Times during the might be sale of SFMM always stated that the park is profitable
*** Edited 4/9/2007 1:14:23 AM UTC by Peabody***
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