Astroland Park sold, will close in 2007, Cyclone to remain

Might want to rephrase this a bit, IT WILL CLOSE AT THE END OF THE 2007 summer season.Chuck
*** This post was edited by Charles Nungester 11/29/2006 10:21:10 AM ***

I think I'm going to cry...

Right now, Best case scenario is the family gets permission to operate somewhere else on the property (Perhaps in conjuction with Denos) and the resort and coaster gets built.Something in the back of my mind tells me that a lot of this so calle amusement will be lost in the NEW VENUE.Half million dollar condos with a coaster roaring outside the windows, Don't make sence.Chuck
*** This post was edited by Charles Nungester 11/29/2006 10:53:17 AM ***

The Cyclone is protected and can never be touched, right?

I think it is designated an historical landmark, but I wouldn't know if there is actually any legal protection. But even if there wasn't, I have a feeling New Yorkers would be up in arms if they were to taer it down!!!!!!!!

*** This post was edited by janfrederick 11/29/2006 12:15:06 PM ***

You know I can't help but think this condo development is going to drive a wedge into the heart of Coney and really divide it into two halves. Once it's built and sitting square in the middle, it's only a matter of time til it spreads and the Cyclone and Nathan's are sadly all that remain of the old Coney.

we all know it will be all condos.

The city doesnt care anymore. they are letting everything that was good about ny city go away.

It's sacrilege to even think such things, but honestly, I didn't enjoy the Cyclone. It was VERY rough the day I tried it; once was enough without question.

Is there actually anything there other than the Cyclone? If they're going to develop a more extensive amusement park area, while keep the classic Cyclone, why exactly is this bad? Not playing devil's advocate, I don't actually know.

The other HUGE attraction is Deno's Wonder Wheel...that's not part of Astroland, though....

Granted the park was closed and it was cold and rainy, the whole Coney Island area was a dump. Cyclone looked fun, but outside of that the Wonder Wheel was the only thing that didn't look like crap.

I would just be concerned that Cyclone and Nathans needs to stay. Those two things are the only reason to go to Coney Island.

The problem is in newsday there was an article stating this is all a ploy . once it gets rezoned back to al lresidential they will cancel the plans and build all condos and such.

Put it this way there will be no new amusement park. It will be all residential apartments and stuff.

eventually even the cyclone will be torn down.

^^ You may be right about it all being a ploy Majortom, after all, real estate will always be a big money maker, but know that the Cyclone will NEVER be torn down, as it is not only a New York State historic landmark, it is also a National Historic Landmark, protected by and partially funded by the government. Short of fire or natural disaster, it's not going anywhere......

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Despite Silberstein and Sitt’s comments, many in the area remain skeptical, especially after the developer recently gave notice to several amusement attractions that they had 90 days to vacate the premises.

One amusement attraction operator who received a notice said it was odd to get the vacate notice, especially considering that Thor Equities has said it will take them at least 18 months to get a shovel into the ground.

The owner, who asked not to be named, speculated that Sitt may be clearing out the area as the city gets ready to change the zoning from C-7, an open-air amusement area, to one that also accommodates retail, hotels and possible residential development.

“”Why would he [Sitt] take tenants out without submitting any plans? It leaves me with the opinion that he’s looking to turn the property over free and clear of any tenants and might already have a customer lined up,” the amusement attraction operator said.

http://www.baynewsbrooklyn.com/site/tab1.cfm?newsid=17477081&BRD=2384&PAG=461&dept_id=552847&rfi=6

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Right there in black and white, these high in the sky plans were just to drum up approval and public support. No way they're going to have loud coasters and other rides right up against upscale condos. And once those upscale condos go up, can say goodbye to the Cyclone as well. Because it'll then be operating in a residential zone and will be deemed too noisy or something else. This is nothing but bad news. *** This post was edited by jomo 11/29/2006 3:13:59 PM ***

"short of fire..."

Historical landmark protects absolutely nothing, only brings recognition to somthing of historic nature.

Will never be torn down? Yeah right, Just like Tornado and other historic things. Money superceeds everything these days, The whole NY population could boycott something and they'd have the Guard there with Tanks to keep em out.

Chuck

The Coney Island Cyclone is on The National Registrar of Historical Places. It CANNOT be relocated becaise of this. Just keep in mind that these are man-made rules and becuase of this subject to change of bribery!

How many fires have there been at Coney in the past 100 years? What's one more to open up some more space for a luxury condo or trendy boutique?

^^ I beg to differ:

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The National Register of Historic Places is primarily a tool to recognize the historical significance of a building, structure, object, district, or site. Listing in the National Register does not restrict private property owners from the use of their property.

Typically, a Memorandum of Agreement (MOA) in which the parties involved agree to a particular plan is created. An MOA might address the adverse effect in a variety of ways, often recommending "document and destroy" in which the historic resource is first documented and then demolished as the most prudent and feasible alternative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Register_of_Historic_Places

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No doubt the new developers will find "document and destroy" as the most feasible alternative.

*** This post was edited by jomo 11/29/2006 5:59:14 PM ***