Arrow riding on X?

Tuesday, May 22, 2001 12:39 PM
Why does everyone always say that Arrow is riding on teh success of X? Is Arrow in some sort of financial trouble? Or are they throwing in the towel or something?

Please explain!

oh and P.S. How can it be unsuccessful for Arrow? They are getting money from SFMM since it is being built, they get paid no matter what. Isn't a coaster that is built already successful for a company?

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PCW needs something taller than a boomerang
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Tuesday, May 22, 2001 12:57 PM
You make some valid points. However, if I'm PKI and X turns into a nightmare for SFMM, why should I buy one? I'm sure Arrow as a company will be fine, but after all the time, money and work put into this design, to then have the project fail would be a huge blow to them. I'm confident this project will be a rousing success however, and a year from now, this discussion will be null and void. ;) *** This post was edited by DWeaver on 5/22/2001. ***
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Tuesday, May 22, 2001 12:59 PM
This is a good question. I don't entirely know of Arrow's current financial status, but I do know that Arrow will only get paid for THIS 4th dimension. So, yes they will get paid, but if it isn't successful, what are the chancs that another park is going to buy one? It wouldn't kill Arrow to have X be a failure, but it certainly wouldn't help seeing that this is their first project for a couple of years. I do not think though that Arrow is in anyway throwing in the towel. They have a lot of new concepts out right now, I have heard of the 64 passenger super train, an LIM coaster, and the Arrowbatic. The Arrowbatic, I may say, looks like one of the greatest ideas. Small space, low price tag(I assume), and big thrills.

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Coasters- a little slice of heaven
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Tuesday, May 22, 2001 1:06 PM
You have to suspect that when developing a new coaster type (like X) that the profit margins for the design company aren't as high as a coaster that they have previously built. A lot of time is put into the initial development, lots of extra testing and tons of other unexpected surprises. And you can bet that the park putting in the coaster will only pay for so much of this kind of stuff. If any!

Regardless, it is to the advantage of the coaster company to embark on projects like this anuyways. If the coaster is successful, who knows how many more they will sell in the next couple of years.

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Tuesday, May 22, 2001 1:18 PM
Good example, look at what happened to B&M and the inverted.

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Coasters- a little slice of heaven
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Tuesday, May 22, 2001 1:27 PM
Arrow has a good and bad rep. Good because of the huge amout of coasters they have made and the barriers they have smashed. Bad because as Arrow coasters get older, they start to really hurt. This will have to work for them or parks may start took look in other places for coasters

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You are the Weakest Link, Goodbye.
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Tuesday, May 22, 2001 1:35 PM
Like Movies, the main aim is to put butts in seats or in a Park case, to get people through the gates. They have to be satisfied.
Word-of-mouth (via the Net etc.) will determine the success of X not techonology, hype or whatever. Just like it did for Hypersonic, Nitro and the newly revived Phantom. Only time will tell.
Arrow needs to make this work so more will be sold much the same way that S&S were on hand at the Hypersonic launching to ensure its success.
One thing for sure, its nice to have Viper next to X for a true Arrow before-after story or win-win story if you like.
All success to them.

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If Lifes a Rollercoaster, I want a Flawless
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