Arrow Question

Thursday, August 9, 2001 1:29 PM
Has Arrow ever made/ made parts for wooden coasters?

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Thursday, August 9, 2001 4:17 PM
Not that I know of.
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Thursday, August 9, 2001 4:22 PM
Ditto.
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Thursday, August 9, 2001 4:56 PM
Gemini ;)

I'm in denial, it looks so much like a woodie so don't bash me! ;)

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http://www.woodencoaster.com
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Thursday, August 9, 2001 4:59 PM

bigkirby said:
"Gemini ;)

I'm in denial, it looks so much like a woodie so don't bash me! ;)

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Rollercoasters are the secret of life!


" target="_blank">http://www.woodencoaster.com"



gemini IS wood, just because it has a tubular steel track doesnt make a difference, this is how i put it, what does gemini have more of, wood, or steel, exactly!
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Thursday, August 9, 2001 5:01 PM
No. Arrow has not made anything wood (unless of course you count the supports on so many mine trains)

Arrow however had designed a swinging ship, which never made it into production, and several other flat rides....
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Thursday, August 9, 2001 6:00 PM

themonkeymaster99 said:
"

bigkirby said:
"Gemini ;)

I'm in denial, it looks so much like a woodie so don't bash me! ;)

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Rollercoasters are the secret of life!


" target="_blank">http://www.woodencoaster.com"



gemini IS wood, just because it has a tubular steel track doesnt make a difference, this is how i put it, what does gemini have more of, wood, or steel, exactly!
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t h e r e s a monkey in my pocket and he stealing all my change, his stare is blank and glassy i suspect that hes diranged....."





Technically, Gemini is a mine train. The wooden supports and tubular steel running rails classify it as a mine train. With that aside, Gemini is in my Top 5 of all time...
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Thursday, August 9, 2001 9:50 PM

themonkeymaster99 said:
gemini IS wood, just because it has a tubular steel track doesnt make a difference



Actually, it makes all the difference in the world. Villain has a steel structure, but laminated wood track. What does it feel like when you ride it? That's right, a woodie. Heck, even large portions of the Coney Island/Astroland Cyclone are steel, and I don't think there's ANYONE who'd argue THAT'S not a wooden coaster.


What does Gemini feel like when you ride it? A steel coaster. The supports may be wood, but the track is what determines the ride type, and that's tubular steel. It's an overgrown mine train (which, when you get down to it, is really all Magnum is as well, which may give Cedar Point the record for most mine-train-derived rides :) )


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*** This post was edited by GregLeg on 8/10/2001. ***
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Friday, August 10, 2001 4:42 AM
GregLeg Oh no you didn't just call Magnum a mine ride....

But he is also right. The ride is determinded on what type of track it uses. Even in the book of records, Cedar Point has 2 woodies (mean/blue streaks) and the rest are steels.

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Friday, August 10, 2001 6:15 AM
All that aside, and getting back to the original question, there seems to be an amazing number of ill-informed people here. Because as I understand it, Arrow Development actually built a set of trains for the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk Giant Dipper. I guess they didn't last very long before ex-Arrow president Dana Morgan built the current set.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
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Friday, August 10, 2001 8:27 AM
Gregleg is right about everything except Maggie - mine-rides have jerky laterals, Maggie just has sweet air and the turnaround that seems to have inspired Millie's turns (not overbanked, but I think there's a strong resemblance, especially when Magnum ran that part at a higher speed. "track is what determines the ride type" - that's the fact, although support structure does have some effect. But as far as Arrow TRAINS are concerned, I'm happy they spent their time developing X

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Friday, August 10, 2001 2:40 PM

GregLeg said:
What does Gemini feel like when you ride it? A steel coaster. The supports may be wood, but the track is what determines the ride type, and that's tubular steel. It's an overgrown mine train (which, when you get down to it, is really all Magnum is as well, which may give Cedar Point the record for most mine-train-derived rides :) )
That's funny, I was thinking the exact same thing last week. Pumped up mine rides.


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Friday, August 10, 2001 2:48 PM
I don't think GregLeg is actually saying that Magnum is a mine train. He's just pointing out that if Maggie's steel tubular track was built on wood beams rather than steel, it would still be a steel coaster.

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Friday, August 10, 2001 2:57 PM
No, what GregLeg is saying is that mechanically, the Magnum XL-200, Pepsi Max: The Big One, and Desperado use the same car design and wheel configuration as the Arrow mine trains. The trains on Magnum XL-200 and on Adventure Express are, apart from decoration and seat padding, darned near identical!

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
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