Arrow not the holder of "4-D" patent

Posted Thursday, November 23, 2000 7:24 AM | Contributed by 2Hostyl

US Patent 6,098,549 appears to be very similar to the Arrow coaster that has been making so much news lately.

The patent holder has this Website:

Thursday, November 23, 2000 9:24 AM
Arrow might have a patent to their version of the ride. Just because they are similar does not mean it can't be Arrows. I am sure there are several other companies out there looking at this and working out there own versions which their R&A departments.
Thursday, November 23, 2000 9:39 AM
Actually, they can't be similar. That's the whole reason for having a patent.

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Thursday, November 23, 2000 10:38 AM
Website says the company is for sale.. arrow could have bought it or something

Matt Bleiweiss
Thursday, November 23, 2000 10:58 AM
If Arrow has purchased this patent we'll hear about it soon enough. If their new design is too close to the Meteorcoaster then we'll hear about this too. Got have something to keep those attorneys earning their retainers.
Thursday, November 23, 2000 2:54 PM
When's this going to arrive on the Home Shopping Network? I mean come on, autographed videos for $14.95, patent sets, etc. I will agree that the design looks similar.
Thursday, November 23, 2000 6:20 PM
Seems like the patent mentions something about the rider having control of the spin of the restraint. I believe the arrow design receives the control inputs via the second set of rails. Therefore the spin of the seats would not be controlled by the rider, but rather by the segment of the track in which the train travels over.
Thursday, November 23, 2000 8:49 PM
Did you atually read the patent? This is nothing like what was in the video or the pictures.

Check the IBM patent server, it will give drawings and diagrams that were included with the patent.

Also, in many cases, a patent will not be issued until a year or so after the invention. (Hence "patent pending")

Check out B&M's inverted patent, it happened in 1994 although the first ride was built before then.
Thursday, November 23, 2000 9:17 PM
I would think the closest patent to Arrow's coaster would be Setpoint's, but I believe their true patent is on the split-track ability.
Friday, November 24, 2000 1:21 AM
I think Arrow is smart enough to not waste years of research designing a ride without double-checking to see if there is a devise all too similar.

Also, I will agree that the description does not match the pictures... at all.
Or am I missing something?
Friday, November 24, 2000 5:42 AM
Arrow is doing the same thing. Remember the, now missing, pictures and the mpeg. Well in those pictures the cars on the train used, if i remember correctly, use the new arrow restraint system. You can see this at the IAAPA gallery. This concept is very, very, simmilar, and mabey (i can't believe i'm saying this) better, but Arrow is doing the 4-D. Hopefully!
Friday, November 24, 2000 6:26 AM
If arrow developed the concept of flipping the cars via the extra tracks, they will have the patent for this, cause its a whole different concept. The idea of running the cars next to the track is another thing. I dont think that, say B&M pays patent license to, say Intamin, for building a coaster that runs on steel-track
Saturday, November 25, 2000 4:07 PM
I would ride any of these styles coming out. I actually like the racing idea better, utilizing one track for both trains. All I can hope for is something showing up down south in the near future, as I am leaving Ohio soon (it has been a great 7 years!).
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