With the delays on X (which in my opinion, should have been slated for a 2002 opening so any kinks could be worked out) and the delays of the Stratosphere Coaster, Arrow have very little income coming in on the rides department.
As you know, Arrow build a bit more than rides, as stated in the recent IAAPA interview with Fred Bolingbroke, President of Arrow Dynamics, so there is a bit of cash flow with that area, but in order to once again experience new cutting-edge designs, I believe, they need to get a few more products out on the market.
"Well, John they already have 80+ fantastic coasters, a slew of log flumes and transportation rides, and not to mention, the incredible Cedar Creek Mine Ride"
With recent installations such as the fantastic Tennesee Tornado, it is clear to me that these once "old and outdated" designs can be built more thrilling than ever. Arrows current track fabrication and modern computer systems can match the quality coming out of Giovanola, Morgan and Intamin.
Not to mention, the prices on domestic designers are always signifcantly cheaper then going with, say, a Swiss firm. So, Parks, before you look at that 400' B&M Inverted, consider a Custom Arrow Mad Mouse. you will thank me for it.
John Peck (who has abosolutley nothing to do with Arrow, except love them.)
*** This post was edited by john peck on 12/12/2001. ***
Water Rides:
•Flume
•Splashdown boat ride
Coasters:
4d
Corkscrew/Looping
Mine train/hyper-steel supports
Mine train-wood supports
Mad Mouse
Jet Star Type(Space mountain)
Suspended
Arrowbatic
Kiddie
Stratosphere Design
Flat Rides:
Hat Dance/Tea Cup
*** This post was edited by john peck on 12/15/2001. ***
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Combine this with their innovative new ideas and established amusement buisness, and I think that it is safe to say that Arrow will be around for a long time. Just because one prototype ride has given them problems does not mean that they are going to go bankrupt. X will open, and the delay is a combination of unforseen design flaws and poor advertising strategy by SFMM.
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Well, I have mentioned this in other posts and forums, the success of X depends on the future of Arrow. No matter how you look at this, all eyes in the industry are watching Arrow.
C'mon guys! I have faith in you, but now everyone else needs to see more of your unique updates!
Fred admitted in the interview: "I think it’s safe to say that Arrow became complacent and lost sight of what was really important. Arrow was unable to change and improve with the advancements in technology. More attention was placed on quantity than on quality."
So, while They were making noteworthy rides, their technology remained the same and the elements didn't change much. While Toomer was in charge, I don't even think they even attempted to engineer loops of other sizes.....or am I wrong there?
Agent Johnson said:
Arrow is a top notch company. People need to realize that their best rides are still running with good ridership numbers. I do not think that Batman will have the same numbers 25 years later like the Gemini or the Loch Ness Monster. And as for parts, well, they invented the industry standards on delivery and service. And all American made.
I am going to have to disagree i would take BTR over any Arrow, except maybe X but that is unforseen as of now. I am sorry but BTR is more intense, and a all around better ride than a say Viper, or Drachen fire or Ninja, or even the Magnum IMHO.
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Arrow designs are based on more of a family market, especially with the mine train and the mad mice. Also, Arrow stay with a general 48" height restriction on many of their coasters which alllows first times to experience more stuff.
So hopefully, they can sell a couple more Mice for next year to some parks who may wan't one. PKI would be a good canidate in my book as well as SFWOA and Holiday World.
So right now, they just need some income on a ride that can be built fast and opened quickly
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