Arrow Dynamics

Wednesday, March 24, 2004 9:18 AM
Does any one know whats up with Arrow Dynamics (s&s arrow). It seems as if s&s power isn't goin to do much with it. And the new arrow web site, well now the index page of s&s power, just fully sucks. I hate to think this is the end but every day after day it seems like it. Such a great company, with great creations, now lies in the s&s power's hands.
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Wednesday, March 24, 2004 9:49 AM
I don't claim to actually know anyone's motivation, but I personally would've acquired Arrow for the parts business alone.

Beyond that, look at what the marketplace offers in terms of the many manufacturers out there, and look at what the market demands are. There aren't exactly a ton of new coasters going in this year. Arrow can't build anything if someone doesn't buy from them.

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Wednesday, March 24, 2004 2:49 PM
Exactly. And the 2 major products that S&S Arrow offer coaster wise(4D and TA2K) don't have that good of a reputation, maintainence wise, and with the TA2K, that can be done by other companies, and we all know the rumor that B&M are working on a 4D as well.

I like Arrow, but as Jeff said, they're gonna do good with parts alone...

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Wednesday, March 24, 2004 3:20 PM
With three woodies this year [Dells, Clementon, and Faarup Sommerland] I think they're doing pretty well.
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Wednesday, March 24, 2004 3:46 PM
Not sure I see why anyone would want an S&S woodie at this point with the less than gee-whiz reaction to the one in Washington. That, and there are four guys in Cincy responsible for the vast majority of modern wood coasters who could use the work.
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Wednesday, March 24, 2004 3:54 PM
Moosh-true, I forget about their wooden projects. Hopefully they'll get some practice in that area in and make some major wood.

Jeff-cheaper, perhaps? I don't know prices on either company, just a though. I'd love to see GG do something new soon, but are they pursuing some major contracts even? I know they've been doing some consulting and re-vamping/tracking/profiling of coasters, though.

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Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:00 PM
Thinking that SFEV's woodie, while the reaction from *enthusiasts* has been well, less-than-stellar, that SF was happy with the results (i.e., the turnstiles).

And while I personally would LOVE to see more TA2K models (and of course more 4-Ds), the one Arrow Dynamics ride that there needs to be a lot more of.....you got it, MINE RIDES...

And even though there are other ways to launch coasters, I've yet to feel the pounding RUSH of Hypersonic's air-launch on any other coaster. (Course, I gotta get to CP this year to check out Dragster)...;)

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Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:34 PM
Tekno, Gravity Group has been hired to build a new coaster for Big Chief's in 2005.
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Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:35 PM

the less than gee-whiz reaction to the one in Washington.

I think Enchanted Village got exactly what they wanted---a family-friendly coaster that looks great but doesn't scare off too much of the current (mostly waterpark) crowd. Given their other coasters are a standard corkscrew and one of the worst mice on the planet, it's still a step up.

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Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:53 PM

Vater said:
Tekno, Gravity Group has been hired to build a new coaster for Big Chief's in 2005.

True, forgot about that one, thanks vator. I too would like to see Arrow do more, and obviously, GG speaks for itself as a top notch company. But right now, it just dosen't seem as if companies are looking for "The next big thing" with a few exceptions. Most parks are looking to get some more traditional and/or family type rides.

Oh, and Vator, love the sig, guess nitro dave was refering to me. What post was that in?

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Wednesday, March 24, 2004 5:05 PM
It's actually in his sig.
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Wednesday, March 24, 2004 5:42 PM
While the first thrust air had some issues, the one in Japan has worked very well and the overall air launch system was pretty much perfected there.

As for the Washington coaster, I'll just second what Moosh has been saying for over a year now-S&S delivered what Six Flags wanted- a solid, well-built family coaster. You can't fault them for giving the customer exactly what they asked for.

Adam

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Thursday, March 25, 2004 1:04 AM
Based on the *scouting reports*, the second S&S will dispel notions that they build "family" woodies....we'll find out soon enough! :)

Back to the Arrow side of things, I just can't WAIT for Stan to call up the Sally folks in Jax and develop the "interactive mine ride"....I'd put up with all those Bulldog fans in Jacksonville for a chance to work on THAT project.....*drool*...:)

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Friday, March 26, 2004 10:39 AM
Just remember...

CCI's first coaster was the Sky Princess, followed by Zach's Zoomer.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Friday, March 26, 2004 11:12 AM

Most parks are looking to get some more traditional and/or family type rides.

Families spend money (tm).

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