Are Lake Compounce's flyers snappable?

Monday, August 15, 2005 3:21 PM
Phyiscs wise or policy wise.

Also, anyone know any discounts for the park? *** Edited 8/15/2005 8:14:59 PM UTC by ApolloAndy***

Monday, August 15, 2005 3:25 PM
No, they're the worst flyers I have ever ridden. A nice-looking machine with a great history but way too slow. A shame, and a waste.
Monday, August 15, 2005 3:27 PM
Add onto that the fact that they have this "stopper" like device that restricts the arc of movement of the sail / rudder.
Monday, August 15, 2005 3:28 PM
I've been on a few rides with those, but some of them don't restrict movement to the point where the ride is uneventful. I think they are meant to keep riders from damaging the sails.
Monday, August 15, 2005 10:56 PM
Technically, it's not permitted...but given the quality of the snaps you MIGHT get, I doubt they'd say anything. I had one ride (out of three) where I thought it was at least *possible* to do so. But you'd need to be an excellent pilot to get anything even remotely decent...

Worst flyers ever? Let me get on Cypress' homemade set, I think those ARE worse than even LC' looks alone, I think a Chance Aviator could be more snappable...LOL! ;)

Monday, August 15, 2005 11:03 PM
Is "snapping" where one would move the front wing really quick and cause extreme lateral-ness of the flyer? I'm not really sure what snapping is, but I think I have done it before at HW's flyers.
Monday, August 15, 2005 11:38 PM
They re-did the ride 2 years ago to where they are hard to snap, but not impossible. Chuck should be able to figure them out.

They did not have a "no snapping rule" last time I was there.

Monday, August 15, 2005 11:42 PM
yes they are snappable but I only get 4 snaps and the ride cycle is over. They get mad at me because I get it swinging so much I ruin all the flowers planted around the base of the ride.You also need a little breeze to make it snap more. I also think that they cut the cycle short when I get it snappen hard, so the next time I go I'm going to ride it once without snapping and time the cycle then ride it again snapping it and time that cycle I will post the results.
Monday, August 15, 2005 11:58 PM
Yeah, if anyone can figure it out it's Chuck. That man could get a wave swinger to snap!
Tuesday, August 16, 2005 12:12 AM
Hey now, There are better snappers than I.

I think James Moreland is one of the best or anyone of the old PKI regs.

We just got done with Family day at strickers and it was just like old times at PKI on a couple of rides :)

Worst Flyers ever? Seabreeze and thats about the only bad point of the park.

Chuck, who is gonna have to start teaching Larson Flyers school. They don't suck as much as people think, Matter of fact, The hardest snaps I've seen was on a larson.

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 12:21 AM
The biggest snap I ever saw was accidental at PKI.

The ride had slowed almost to a stop at the end of the cycle and all of a sudden I hear this -kabam!- and a high pitched shriek two tubs behind me. One of my flying buddies was trying to stop her swing and instead rattled the entire ride more than I've ever seen a set of flyers rattle.

But, anyway, yeah. You snap wave swingers, right? ;)

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:14 AM

john peck said:They did not have a "no snapping rule" last time I was there.

There wasn't anything *posted* at LC's from what I recall, and after watching (and figuring it was moot, for me at least, LOL), I figured I'd *ask* about their policy. Once the op *comprehended* what I was asking about, he said they didn't allow snapping. This was within the last three weeks...

Thankfully, some time on Knoebels' set later on that trip provided me some badly-needed experience, and confidence for the future... :)
*** Edited 8/16/2005 5:20:03 AM UTC by rollergator***

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 8:28 AM

Rob Ascough said:
I've been on a few rides with those, but some of them don't restrict movement to the point where the ride is uneventful. I think they are meant to keep riders from damaging the sails.

Granted... on rides like Knoebels Flyers you don't need that much movement to "snap"... but then again Knoebels Flyers have some speed behind them.

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:29 AM
Well, Knoebels' Flyers pretty much snap with nothing required of the rider!

When I rode the flyers at Seabreeze last month I found them to be really good. The ride cycle was short but I easily got the cables to snap. Not an extreme ride like Knoebels' but definitely better than the flyers at Compounce, Indiana Beach and Conneaut.

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 10:05 AM
The Flyers at Cypress are the worst I've ridden. I went as far as to ask the ride op if he knew who the manufacturer was. He pulled out the manual, and it wasn't listed.

Now I know why. Thanks, rollergator.

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 10:16 AM
I passed on the ones at Cypress because I could tell they were lousy and not worth the time. I could be wrong but I think they were supplied by M&V (the company that retracks wood coasters, amongst other things). Not sure if they built them though.
Tuesday, August 16, 2005 12:57 PM
Well, I guess I could forgive the Canadians, considering what they've done here with FL's other wooden coasters..."Hurricane" @ Cypress is phenomenal work, and for their first "built from the ground up" project, shows a real understanding of wooden coaster construction - we already knew of their abilities with *existing* rides...

P.S. Chuck's too modest about his flyer skillz... ;)

Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:48 PM
I agree. Triple Hurricane is one of the most underrated small wood coasters in the country. Then again, that might be because no one seems to get down there to check it out. Maybe that will change with the Starliner on its way?
Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:28 PM
Chaindog, happy to's a change of pace! ;)

From what I gather, Starliner is more of a "wait and see" than a "hurry up and build" type project....hopefully that'll be changing now that Galaxy Spin is up and running...

Honestly, I really liked Cypress...but Kent B. has GOT to understand somewhere along the line that food and souvies at *smaller* parks are SUPPOSED to be more reasonable that at, say, Disney...I really wanted a Hurricane t-shirt (and yes, it said Hurricane, not T.H.), but I couldn't see spending 20 bucks on it...

Which brings me DIRECTLY back to drinks + *fantastic* staff (which I did take the time to mention at GS) + tremendous atmosphere + reasonable souvenirs = LOADS of free advertising for LC...even if "the Real BoulderDash" never appeared to me. I will say that BD is now ranked between 10-15 for me, but I just don't *get* the inbound leg...

But WildCat, and Ghost Hunt, and *everything* else...if I lived in Joisey, I think my most-used SP would probably be the one from LC... :)

See what Cypress could get from me, if only they tried? ;)

Wednesday, August 17, 2005 11:45 AM
If you lived in Joisey, the chances of you meeting up with the "real" Boulder Dash would be pretty good ;)

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