Are Floorless trains any better than sit down?

Monday, October 1, 2001 1:18 PM
I rode Dragon Kahn a few weeks ago and imagined it as a floorless and I can't see it making much of a difference. And as i'm gonna ride Medusa west next year and quite looking forward to it, I just thought i'd ask. But if it were a normal sitdown, would it make it any less of a ride?
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Monday, October 1, 2001 1:22 PM
In my opinion: NO. In fact, the floorless aspect adds additional unnecessary complication to the design. In my opinion, of course. :)

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Monday, October 1, 2001 1:27 PM
Yes, In front its awesome. In any other row it feels like a looper. But it doesnt bother me.

A floorless train will always add to the ride, but never make it worse. ;)

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Monday, October 1, 2001 1:31 PM
Floorless really only feels different in the front. In any other row, it is mainly more comfortable and a little enhanced during the inline twist. I like floorless coasters, just because they are slightly more fun than sit down. Definitely not that different, though.
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Monday, October 1, 2001 1:39 PM
Thanks guys, thats pretty much what I thought!
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Monday, October 1, 2001 1:48 PM
I rode Kraken and Kumba while down in FL, and i thought Kraken was smoother but that could have been because Kraken had just opened that year.
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Monday, October 1, 2001 2:54 PM
Floorless coasters don't offer a whole lot of difference to the ride, unless you're in the front. At least in front, you can see the track below you, but in the middle of the train, you'd barely even experience the floorless aspect of the trains, sans departing the station when the floor panels come away. And as RideMan said, it does add a complication to the design...in Medusa west's first two months of operation, it wasn't uncommon for the thing to get stuck because a sensor was tripped causing the floor panels to remain folded. Everyone had to be taken off the train row by row manually which was a major pain. I've experienced that particular scenario 6 times.
Oh, and since you'll be riding Medusa west next year at my home park, SFMW, I do suggest your first ride be in front. But if you want to maximize the amount of air time out of the ride, then go for the very back of the train. And of course, have a great ride! :)

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Monday, October 1, 2001 3:00 PM
I like Floorless better because it gives you a better sensation of freedom. But if you look at Wildfires trains, http://www.coastergallery.com/2001/SDC12.html they are almost like Floorless trains.
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Monday, October 1, 2001 3:44 PM
No. In my opinion, the floorless design creates more technical problems also. When at SFGAdv. this summer, I saw the Medusa trains several times have trouble locking up with the sensors in the station.

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Monday, October 1, 2001 3:48 PM
I think floorless trains are better. It makes no difference for the middle and back rows, but it is amazing in the front. It feels like your feet are going to hit the floor. They don't hurt the ride at all, and they make the front seat way better, so I am all for them.
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Monday, October 1, 2001 3:51 PM
I like the floorless trains in the front alot. Your feet gangling just adds. And when you are coming out of loops and cobra rolls, your legs stick out. Ive only been on B:KF(which is probably the worst of the floorless coasters)but the sensors never screwed up.
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Monday, October 1, 2001 4:12 PM
After riding B"KF and Mantis, I'm about tied with floorless and stand up.
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Monday, October 1, 2001 5:03 PM
I'd have to say that the floorless are a heck of a lot nicer to sit in than say, the train of an older arrow corkscrew...

But does it add to the experience, not really...  although I do like B:KF's floor contraption!

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Monday, October 1, 2001 5:06 PM
in the front seat of a floorless there is nothing infront of under or next to you . you feel so free
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Monday, October 1, 2001 8:28 PM
Rideman does have a point... "floorless" trains definitely add a lot of mechanical complication to a coaster.  Like having power windows on a car, all of those moving mechanical bits are quite pricey when they have to be repaired or replaced. 

Personally, I love the feeling of riding SFGAdv's Medusa in the front row, there is just something special about the way the ride feels with the track rushing below your feet at 60+ mph.  Maybe its a greater sense of speed that the "floorless" trains provide, maybe they make the body feel that much more vulnerable.  Sit in a row besides the front, and it feels just like a standard Kumba-type B&M looper.  Which isn't a bad thing!

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Monday, October 1, 2001 8:33 PM
IMO, sit in the front and it DOES add to the experience.  Footchoppers GALORE!  Again, this is only MY opinion...Definitely complicates the ride (and adds considerable expense).
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