I'm new so please bear with me if I babbled.
I have noticed that Six Flags lately has been spreading a lot of clones. We have the inverted batmans, the flying supermans, deja vu's, the flying dutchmen, the impulse, the cyclone clones, medusa/scream, golitah.titan, etc. I mean my homepark is SFGAm, and certain six flags parks that interest me were SFOG, SFMM, SFGAd, and SFMW.
Now I really don't have that much of a desire to go to SFOG or SFGAd. I mean once at SFOG, i would have already been on S:UF, Deja vu, Batman, and the Georgia cyclone. It makes me not really want to go. I understand some coasters are menat to be clones like maybe the impulses and deja vu's. The thing is though most other chains really don't clone that much. Like Paramount and Cedar Fair.
Also I have friends who have been to numerous Six flags parks, and they told me they have a lot of coasters that are the same. So yes, before you say it, the general public, at least some, do notice. I just think Six flags parks needs to get a little more orignal. I think it sucks that we have 6 flying coasters in the U.S. but they're only two different designs. Do you think that this will hurt Six Flags?
Remember, the initial reason Six Flags was started was because people couldn't make it to Disney and Coney Island, etc. Six Flags was built so that a theme park would be close by for everyone. I believe they have accomplished their goal. Building rides people hear about and bringing them close to the public.
I highly doubt this will be an end to Six Flags at all.
I think it is actually one reason they have been experienceing loss of money recently. People have learned how much better parks like BGW, BGT, Dollywood, Paramount, and Universal are. Each of those parks are unique, there's nothing else like them. Unlike SF parks were all of them have the same "feel."
We all probably hold season passes cause we are coaster enthusiasts, but some GP don't. A lot do but some don't.
Not everyone can make it to SFMM or SFGRADV to ride a floorless or a flyer for example,now by puttiing these types into all of their parks(where space & height restrictions allow) then they'd be able to satisfy their local markets that may know of the existance of these types of rides but can't enjoy them because their local parks don't have them.
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Everyone has a photographic memory....some just don't have film.
Most people that i go to school with hardly know exactly what the rides do at all. There was a girl in my art class that went to SFMM over spring break, and all she could really say about X was that the seats rotated. She couldnt even hardly name them, all she knew was a little about them.
Ofcourse there will be some who can tell. Some wont care and some will, but for the most part the rides are usually spread out far enough so that if you went to the closest 2 or 3 SF parks near you, you wont ride too many of the same thing.
1. Millennium Force
These folks make up the vast majority of a park's attendance and revenue. These people have no clue that Kong at SFMW and Mind Eraser at SFA are the same coaster, because they don't even know that one or both of those parks exist.
On the (worn) topic of SFMM vs. CP: I challenge you to find me *one* person who is trying to decide which of the two parks they are going to visit this Saturday. The only people who *might* face such a decision are crazy Coasterbuzzers and like-minded people, and we'll all be going to both parks eventually anyway. They don't compete in any meaningful way beyond marketing, and depending on your loyalties CP isn't as honest as they could be in that department anyway. (Superman is not a coaster! Is too! Is not! Is too!)
I do think the question of clones is an interesting one to consider in the context of the destination parks. For example, most of the Disney "Castle" parks (I've been to Disneyland, Magic Kingdom, and Disneyland Paris so far) are very similar to one another, but these are destination parks. You could imagine an "ordinary" family considering a visit to more than one of them. However, even the disneyphiles admit that when someone goes to a Disney park, they want to ride Pirates/Space Mountain/Haunted Mansion/etc. etc.
MOST DEFINATELY it will hurt them. Why should I got to differant Six Flags parks when all the rides are the same at them?
You miss the point. Six Flags does not market their parks as destination, which is why they use the slogan, "So big, so close." They don't want people in Boston going to Six Flags Magic Mountain or people in LA going to Six Flags New England. They're regional destinations. Ask a local if they even know about other Six Flags parks and I bet nine times out of ten they won't know other parks even exist.
crazy kal: Being new, I guess you wouldn't know that the thing about clones comes up time after time after time. We won't hold it against you. ;)
The average non-enthusiast will not go to more than one Six Flags park. Therefore they will never know or care if there is a clone of a certial ride elsewhere. Six Flags will not be hurt, on the contrary, they benefit by not spending the extra bankroll on hahing a custom designed ride every time. Enthusiasts (which make up less than 1% of the park going folks) are the only ones who really care. If you ran a business, would you spend millions per year to keep less than 1% of your clients from grumbling... I think not.
SCREAM with me... in 2003!
1.) Go to Six Flags (any with a "clone" will do).
2.) Get in line for said clone.
3.) Notice how full the queue is.
Invariably, the clones are as popular or more so than any other ride in the park.
That said, I'm a season passholder and have ridden Batman: The Ride in Chicago, Los Angles, and St. Louis within the past year, and enjoyed each of them.
Apparently, a good ride is a good ride. It doesn't matter were it is.
And Six Flags is well aware of this. It's not hurting them, it's helping.
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