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ms696969 said:
"Also there is still no rollercoaster that is a perfect vertical drop - Oblivion is only 87 degrees"
Sorry, but Hypersonic XLC is 90 degrees up AND down
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- Peabody
Perfect vertical drop coasters:
Hypersonic: XLC
Linear Gale
S:UE
Vertical Velocity
Deja Vu
S:TE
And if I'm not mistaken that Vekoma Tilt coaster is *PAST* 90 degrees....
jeremy
--What are YOU doing? Just CHILLin'!
Hypersonic: XLC
Linear Gale
S:UE
Vertical Velocity
Deja Vu
S:TE
And if I'm not mistaken that Vekoma Tilt coaster is *PAST* 90 degrees....
jeremy
--What are YOU doing? Just CHILLin'!
The fact that there are multiple rumors probably means that something really is in the works. Of course management won't reveal the project until the kinks are worked out. It may or may not be a drop ride. In terms of safety and technology, a ride like this would most certainly be possible and not outside of "common sense". The G-forces involved would not kill or hurt people. Let's say a drop tower uses 1/3 of the drop length to decelerate without injury. A similar proportion would be employed in a taller structure. So instead of a 70' brake, it would use 280' brake. Nobody would get hurt. And you could rocket the car back up with LIMs. That would be half the fun right there.
Cheeze said:And another thing, isn't it just kinda weird that you get a diffrent story from a diffrent person evey time. One elevator opp said she saw viedo and that the rade ran in an vacume tube like you see at the bank, come on guys lets use some common sense...
I don't think this is a ridiculous rumor. Nobody ever thought engineers could span the golden gate. This is childs play comparitively.
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I agree, janfrederick. Many people believe that speed and height means an increase in G focres and intensity. The truth is, a 5000 foot tall coaster could be built that produces less G forces than a children's coaster!
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Patandangi said:
"I work in the electrical industry in Utah and have some inside info for you guys. My company, square D, calls on Arrow so we got some info on upcoming projects. They have engineers in Minnesota and Japan for upcoming , but yet unannounced (4th dimension) projects. THe Las Vegas rumor is not a rumor as I saw a mock up model of the new ride. Let's just say it will blow away any other ride on the strip. It is probably still a year away from completion as they are still woring out the braking. No conformed installaions of the Arrobatic as of yet, but Arrow has been sending engineers out left and right to talk to parks about installations, so 2002 might be a big yrar for them"
What amusement parks beside Valley Fair and Camp Snoppy are in Minn.
And I was wondering, could you be more specific on the Vegas coaster is it a shuttle,full circuit, or a free fall.
People the average age of the tourist in Las Vegas is 50 years old, there is a curfew in vegas, all kids must be with an adult after a certain time(how many adults just go to ride coasters, they are there for gambling its what its known for). This ride is possible but not in vegas. Vegas is changing back from attracting kids to going back to adult themeing. A poll showed that 1 percent of the people visiting vegas said vegas needs more new rides.
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Army rangers lead the way
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Army rangers lead the way
If anything can get built anywhere, Vegas is the place. As far as not doing "thrill" rides, they know that there is still a lot of money to be made from the younger crowds.
Heck, right now they are in the initial stages of building the worlds Largest Ferris wheel (518 ft tall) at the south end of the strip. It will be the second tallest object or building in all of Las Vegas (with the Strat Tower being #1). I know this isn't a coaster, but I sure as heck would call it a thrill ride! (check this link for news story. http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/consumer/2000/nov/21/511068444.html)
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"It's Deja Vu all over again." - Yogi Berra
Heck, right now they are in the initial stages of building the worlds Largest Ferris wheel (518 ft tall) at the south end of the strip. It will be the second tallest object or building in all of Las Vegas (with the Strat Tower being #1). I know this isn't a coaster, but I sure as heck would call it a thrill ride! (check this link for news story. http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/consumer/2000/nov/21/511068444.html)
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"It's Deja Vu all over again." - Yogi Berra
Just beacuse its tall does not mean its a thrill ride, this will be for older people who can enjoy the view of vegas. How many thrill rides take you for a 24 minute ride. This is more like an observation tower, the only thrill will be looking out a window down. Also how come MGM closed its theme park this year because of the overwelming crowds or are they going back to spending money on the hotel, where most of the older people spend there money.
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Army rangers lead the way *** This post was edited by supermandl on 5/1/2001. ***
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Army rangers lead the way *** This post was edited by supermandl on 5/1/2001. ***
As an MGM ride op:
MGM's theme park is only closed to the public It's now known as the Park at MGM Grand and is avaliable for rentals and special functions.
MGM's theme park is only closed to the public It's now known as the Park at MGM Grand and is avaliable for rentals and special functions.
MGM could have done something big with that land, they blew it. Now it's just a park for rich people from overseas to blow their money on. Can you imagine that? Some dude comes over here, and rents a park for his guests, wow.
If they had put more thrill rides in the park, it would have done good. Instead, they had a kiddie coaster, two water rides, a sky coaster that you had to pay for, and all the rip off games and shops that most of us don't care about. Every hotel in Vegas has a shopping mall in it.
They could bring that park back to life if they put some small foot print rides in, like a Deja Vu, S:UE, and a launched coaster. These rides didn't exist when the park was built, but they do now.
It's really sad to see the park fade away, when you know they could have brought it back to life.
If they had put more thrill rides in the park, it would have done good. Instead, they had a kiddie coaster, two water rides, a sky coaster that you had to pay for, and all the rip off games and shops that most of us don't care about. Every hotel in Vegas has a shopping mall in it.
They could bring that park back to life if they put some small foot print rides in, like a Deja Vu, S:UE, and a launched coaster. These rides didn't exist when the park was built, but they do now.
It's really sad to see the park fade away, when you know they could have brought it back to life.
PHYSICS LESSON FOR TODAY:
S=1/2at^2 +v0*t
v=a*t.
Given these, and a 1000 foot drop (S=1000), a=32ft/s^2. Neglecting a starting velocity (which in this case would be negligible anyway), this yields a drop time of: 7.905 seconds, which would result in:
MAXIMUM SPEED = 172.47 MPH. Sorry people, 500MPH ain't gonna happen outside of a jet engine.
Given a 700 foot drop: Max speed = 144.31 MPH.
These are max speeds, with ZERO friction, and ZERO wind resistance. In actuality, the train would probably reach terminal velocity around 150 MPH.
Now, I'll consider the case of a 100MPH LAUNCH at the TOP of the 1000 foot drop:
Max Speed = 198.81 MPH.
So, if you had a 100MPH launch at the top of a 1000 foot drop, you STILL could not, under any circumstances, break the 200MPH barrier. Needless to say, with the exception of a 200+ MPH launch itself, we will NEVER see 200MPH roller coasters.
Oh wait...if we built a coaster that peaked at the very pinnacle of the CN Tower in Toronto (1815 feet), the train could hit 232 MPH in the absence of friction. Too bad the wind resistance would slow it to sub 200MPH speeds.
JMan *** This post was edited by Jman on 5/1/2001. ***
S=1/2at^2 +v0*t
v=a*t.
Given these, and a 1000 foot drop (S=1000), a=32ft/s^2. Neglecting a starting velocity (which in this case would be negligible anyway), this yields a drop time of: 7.905 seconds, which would result in:
MAXIMUM SPEED = 172.47 MPH. Sorry people, 500MPH ain't gonna happen outside of a jet engine.
Given a 700 foot drop: Max speed = 144.31 MPH.
These are max speeds, with ZERO friction, and ZERO wind resistance. In actuality, the train would probably reach terminal velocity around 150 MPH.
Now, I'll consider the case of a 100MPH LAUNCH at the TOP of the 1000 foot drop:
Max Speed = 198.81 MPH.
So, if you had a 100MPH launch at the top of a 1000 foot drop, you STILL could not, under any circumstances, break the 200MPH barrier. Needless to say, with the exception of a 200+ MPH launch itself, we will NEVER see 200MPH roller coasters.
Oh wait...if we built a coaster that peaked at the very pinnacle of the CN Tower in Toronto (1815 feet), the train could hit 232 MPH in the absence of friction. Too bad the wind resistance would slow it to sub 200MPH speeds.
JMan *** This post was edited by Jman on 5/1/2001. ***
500 mph would kill some one and think of the g forces at the bottom of the hill. g forces would kill some one too.
the loch ness monster said:
"500 mph would kill some one and think of the g forces at the bottom of the hill. g forces would kill some one too."
Little bit anxious for Deja Vu? I don't think that it would, because they would configure the brakes to slow the car more gradually. I would like to see an intamin freefall like 4 story cars, and then drop from inside, from a hole in the floor. That would be cool. By the way, VEGAS RULES!!!! and i also love cheese.
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the loch ness monster said:
"500 mph would kill some one and think of the g forces at the bottom of the hill. g forces would kill some one too."
That's ridiculous. There could be a 5000 foot coaster built with less Gs than a 50 foot coaster. The radii of the pullouts and curves are proportional to the height and speed.
Height and speed does NOT mean greater forces
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